[David562]

PSN was not hacked. All the "hackers" did were trying to login multiple times using different user and pass combinations acquired from a variety of sources. Almost like a brute force attack. That's why you have separate passwords for all accounts.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Facts are facts, and when it happens in a row there's just no excuse, no nothing.
It's not like we are going to our personal points of view for a controversial issue, It's a fact, you can't give credit or sympathy to a side or something. It's a fact that Sony did once again what they do best lately. Being EPIC FAIL magnets. There's just no debate in the matter...

[FreePlay]

Actually, there's quite a lot of debate in the matter. Sony did nothing wrong and everything right in this case.

Hackers got access to username/password information for ~96,000 users from some insecure website or websites. They then attempted to use the same combinations to get onto PSN. When Sony's network security detected a massive number of failed login attempts targeting specific users on PSN, they locked down all the targeted users' accounts in case they were compromised.

This is exactly what they should have done, and the data breach had absolutely nothing to do with Sony.

This is like if a company left its customers' credit card numbers sitting unencrypted in a database, someone hacks their server and steals the database, and then the hacker goes on to try to use the credit cards on PSN.

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by FreePlay Actually, there's quite a lot of debate in the matter. Sony did nothing wrong and everything right in this case. Hackers got access to username/password information for ~96,000 users from some insecure website or websites. They then attempted to use the same combinations to get onto PSN. When Sony's network security detected a massive number of failed login attempts targeting specific users on PSN, they locked down all the targeted users' accounts in case they were compromised. This is exactly what they should have done, and the data breach had absolutely nothing to do with Sony. This is like if a company left its customers' credit card numbers sitting unencrypted in a database, someone hacks their server and steals the database, and then the hacker goes on to try to use the credit cards on PSN.

Very good explanation, BUT...How come a *Hacker* or *Hackers* got usernames and passwords from some *shady* website?.
So if i try bruteforce PSN with random usernames and passwords with zombie bots they perfom a lockdown on a certain sector?, In some credit card site i could accept that but on PSN no.
They say that only 0.1% were affected by this, and I said it's my point of view = Sony Failed Again. On minor scale they failed again that cannot be refuted with some poor excuse about a automatic lockdown due to masive login attemps.
If you perform a random bruteforce like i said, a massive attemp to login with RANDOM different usernames and passwords is NOT the same sceneario. I bet ten dollars that the lockdown will be not performed.
Ergo the security of SONY = PSN it's still in bad shape.
This is not a RANDOM case, the *hackers* or *hacker* got solid data about users and passes that were legit.

Get my point?

[bobshi]

Originally Posted by stuck? But it's Sony's fault for not enforcing decent security for their users. The only thing they can do is put diapers on all of their clients and hope they don't over **** their pants. They don't to be able to change the diaper, and clean the baby's butt.

How can Sony prevent people using the same password on PSN that they use on another website you

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[Señor_Striatum]

What do sony and an erectile dysfunctional person have in common? They both take forever to get their s*** up!

[stuck?]

Originally Posted by bobshi How can Sony prevent people using the same password on PSN that they use on another website you

They can't and shouldn't have to. But they have to provide security for these people. Regardless if the people are dumb and ignorant.

No need to be calling names. I'm not 7.

[FreePlay]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 Very good explanation, BUT...How come a *Hacker* or *Hackers* got usernames and passwords from some *shady* website?. So if i try bruteforce PSN with random usernames and passwords with zombie bots they perfom a lockdown on a certain sector?, In some credit card site i could accept that but on PSN no. They say that only 0.1% were affected by this, and I said it's my point of view = Sony Failed Again. On minor scale they failed again that cannot be refuted with some poor excuse about a automatic lockdown due to masive login attemps. If you perform a random bruteforce like i said, a massive attemp to login with RANDOM different usernames and passwords is NOT the same sceneario. I bet ten dollars that the lockdown will be not performed. Ergo the security of SONY = PSN it's still in bad shape. This is not a RANDOM case, the *hackers* or *hacker* got solid data about users and passes that were legit. Get my point?

No, actually, not in the least. Sony did precisely what they should've done. People got the passwords from somewhere else because you're much more likely to get a hit with a confirmed name/password combo than from an attempted bruteforce.

Sony locked out accounts that were associated with a hack on another website where those e-mail address/password combos were legitimate. This makes sense, because there's a much higher chance of those combos working on PSN as well, and if the password was just recently changed after the hack (for example) that'd be a sign of suspicious activity.

Besides, you're arguing entirely from speculation and then attacking Sony for not responding to something that may not even be happening. What other nonexistent threats have they not responded to well enough to meet your satisfaction?

[Alexerer]

Oh wow.. i just read about this, I'm glad i'm completely converting to pc, i'm gonna buy the origins chronos custom pc for sure now. plus i like steam alot anyways

[FreePlay]

You couldn't have read too closely if you think this is cause to worry about the PSN...