[cboushell]

I don't know why they don't just offer the original version with the ribbon cable that had the soldering points punched out along with this version. They obviously had the ribbon cable with the soldering points in some sort of production, with that the dual boot was functional, and I'm sure appealed to a larger and therefore more profitable market. I'm no great solderer but the thing looked like it wouldnt be to hard and if it seemed to be, I'd pay someone to do it for me. Just my 2 cents, rather it be my $90 bucks for the device.

[Pirate]

Originally Posted by wakka_wakka The thing is, they don't quite explain how that "half dual boot" works. I've read their E3 FLASHER Function operation manual.pdf but their English is so broken that I can't be certain of what they're trying to explain in some parts. I just don't want to end up with a flasher that might get blocked by a firmware update. They never answered back if it has a second NOR chip, they only told me to check that same news update on their site.

They read this forum, so I am sure they will answer it in a future statement.

[KillerBug]

Nice to know that they actually respond...I hope people who pre-ordered will get the dual-boot "upgrade" for free since they already paid for it.

Anyone else think it is odd that they on the 14th they said they will begin shipping on the 13th?

[Plutonic]

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 It is to a scam. In fact its such a scam that Im having a hard time believing you are actually justifying their actions. First, they hyped up their product as being the "FIRST DUAL BOOT FLASHER EVER". Right on their websites front page.

This hardware is obviously not easy to make. Last minute decisions like this (clip vs dual boot) are common. They couldn't have made a huge poll and asked "Hey. of all of you who pre-ordered, who wants dual boot and who wants clip"?.

It's like getting the beta of a game; you're guranteed NOTHING that's in there.

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 In fact, ITS STILL ****ING THERE. .

In that I agree with you. They often seem quite incoherent and, not to sound racist as I am not and I'm sorry if I insult anyone, but I asked my friend if he thought they "speak English with their Asian mark, even in writing" and he agreed. And the site isn't really reliable.

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 Now I did feel the clip was a bonus when i first heard about them delaying it to add it, but i had already pre ordered mine way before the clip was announced. I was ready to solder it to begin with. I bought it for the dual boot functionality because im a developer, and Id also like to play some new games. I had high hopes for this for a long time, and waited almost a month now only to be left disappointed.

Seriously, I am NOT trying to be an ass; but you're going to have to deal with it. Don't want it because no dual boot? Cancel pre-order. Can't? You were scammed, but not by the manufacturer

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 Now if you are not so blatantly retarded,

No need for ad hominems, I'm just expressing my opinion; calm down.

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 I believe you will probably know that im not the only person who wanted it for that reason. I doubt that not even 1/8th of the people who reserved it, did it for the downgrade functionality. They did it for the dual boot.

Of course I do know that. I was going to pre-order it because no solder+ dual boot. But I recognized how cheesy the site seemed and the fact that pre ordering hardware like this is always a risk; even with trusted companies. Reason mentioned before.

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 So explain to me how you feel waiting until the last minute to tell people straight up this **** dont dual boot doesnt constitute them trying to fraud people into buying something they wouldnt have bought if they knew the truth before hand.

How do you know they didn't "figure this out" at the 'last minute'? Were you there? Nor was I. Now, say you are right and they knew this before, then yes, it's a scam

Originally Posted by Rogerdodger91 The fact is, they couldnt deliver, and they knew that it would impact their sales. For legal reasons they said it at the last minute to avoid criminal investigation. And guess what, hella people who didnt check their favorite ps3 hack site in the last few days are going to be very disappointed and **** out of luck. Thats a scam. If they wanted to do the respectful thing, they would get ahold of each and everyone of their distributors and do the right thing, and get them to refund all their customers money back. If the customer wants a flasher, he can just order it again. FACT.

If people don't look for info whenever they can on hardware like this, from a manufacturer like this, in a pre order, they are ignorant IMO. They are asking for it. Sure, it's still a scam (again, if you are right and they didn't find out at the last minute), but it's not their job to sell it to us, it's their job to sell it to the sites like modchipcentral.

I won't post any more on this regard; as I will not change your opinion and vice versa and this will just create a flamewar. I hope you can get your money back, I really do; and that you can find some way to dual boot in the future.

[wakka_wakka]

Originally Posted by KillerBug Nice to know that they actually respond...I hope people who pre-ordered will get the dual-boot "upgrade" for free since they already paid for it. Anyone else think it is odd that they on the 14th they said they will begin shipping on the 13th?

This is what they say on their site:

3: (...) We will release this half dual boot way in few days, you just upgrade e3 flasher limited and get it work.
4: We are working hard to allow e3 flasher limited vesion works really dual boot, but we can't promise now because lots of changes.
6: New e3 flasher should come out in few month with more fantastic function !

And this is what I got from Lightake:

"The official has told us they can upgrade the E3 flasher as "dual-boot" in a few days.

If you accept the item, we will send you the upgrade software once we get"

From what I understand, they will release the instructions and software to do that half dual boot with this current board, there's no confirmation that they will send out an upgraded board to everyone who pre-ordered. Hell, they already said they're going to make a new one with some soldering required.

"We will develop a new flasher to add those function with few wire solder."

[arnes_king]

Originally Posted by Pirate 5: We upload all neccessory software and manual, you can go here to download and enjoy one key downgrade. Read more: http://www.ps3hax.net/index.php#ixzz1arBUyqBr

Does that mean that with the files that they upload we can downgrade or am i missing something ?

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by arnes_king Does that mean that with the files that they upload we can downgrade or am i missing something ?

yeah thats right but the thing your missing is e3 flasher witch hasnt been released yet

[wakka_wakka]

Just got word that we need to reflash every single time to use this half dual boot thing.

[RafeDonson]

Originally Posted by wakka_wakka This is what they say on their site: And this is what I got from Lightake: "The official has told us they can upgrade the E3 flasher as "dual-boot" in a few days. If you accept the item, we will send you the upgrade software once we get"

I'm getting deja vu here. Remember the PS3 Break that was trumpeted as being upgradeable but wasn't? Lighttake parroted the same thing, even after it was clear the initial range weren't.

[ozzy1925]

i hope they now release a new version that also works for cech-3004