[Elyssion]

Originally Posted by carldenning the jailbreak was the ps3 jig dongle which we could run unsigned codes which was leaked to the jailbreak team from someone at sony

You don't have any idea about how the jailbreak worked... The jig part was irrelevant, a JIG DOES NOT ALLOW TO RUN UNSIGNED CODE, the important part was the heap overflow exploit. An exploit that couldn't be found without a ram dump of lv2 running.
It is well documented out there if you don't believe me.

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by Elyssion You don't have any idea about how the jailbreak worked... The jig part was irrelevant, a JIG DOES NOT ALLOW TO RUN UNSIGNED CODE, the important part was the heap overflow exploit. An exploit that couldn't be found without a ram dump of lv2 running. It is well documented out there if you don't believe me.

u think what u think and i will carry on what i think .

[wtfTroll]

Man Graf_chokolo now that's a real Dev who did what he did for the scene not for the glory!

[Elyssion]

Originally Posted by carldenning u think what u think and i will carry on what i think .

Ok, if you prefre ignorance, then think whatever you want. But the exploit is perfectly documented out there.
Oh well, evolution is also documented and there are idiots that think the man was born 6000 years ago, so I'm used to human stupidty.

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by Elyssion Ok, if you prefre ignorance, then think whatever you want. But the exploit is perfectly documented out there. Oh well, evolution is also documented and there are idiots that think the man was born 6000 years ago, so I'm used to human stupidty.

ok then when did failoverflow release there exploit and also when did marcan and fail0verflow discus the vulnerabilities of the PS3 security?

and when did the jailbreak 1st came out ?

[superfurry]

Who really gives a rats arse who did what?


Thanks, superfurry

[Elyssion]

Originally Posted by carldenning ok then when did failoverflow release there exploit and also when did marcan and fail0verflow discus the vulnerabilities of the PS3 security? and when did the jailbreak 1st came out ?

You are confusing two different exploits.
Jailbreak exploit = heap overflow = august 2010
Faioverfl0w exploit = revoke list overflow + signing bug = december 2010

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by superfurry Who really gives a rats arse who did what? Thanks, superfurry

im just trying to make a point and get to the bottom of it because i been told im wrong and i want him to prove im wrong
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Originally Posted by Elyssion You are confusing two different exploits. Jailbreak exploit = heap overflow = august 2010 Faioverfl0w exploit = revoke list overflow + signing bug = december 2010

so that jailbreak was out out before failoverflow yes or no
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also what was the ps jailbreak made from? i say they used the infomation from the jig and manual because thats whats the ps3 is looking for when you do then power and eject . because its based on sony usb jig

could we run unsigned apps with the jailbreak dongle ? i say yes

did geonot work on hypervisor security with the glitch have anythink to do with the ps jailbreak yes or no ? i say no

did geohot come back to scene after the jailbreak and once failover flow released there stuff ? i say ye

[Elyssion]

Originally Posted by carldenning im just trying to make a point and get to the bottom of it because i been told im wrong and i want him to prove im wrong ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* so that jailbreak was out out before failoverflow yes or no ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* also what was the ps jailbreak made from? i say they used the infomation from the jig and manual because thats whats the ps3 is looking for when you do then power and eject . because its based on sony usb jig could we run unsigned apps with the jailbreak dongle ? i say yes did geonot work on hypervisor security with the glitch have anythink to do with the ps jailbreak yes or no ? i say no did geohot come back to scene after the jailbreak and once failover flow released there stuff ? i say ye

Yes, we could run unsigned apps with jailbreak dongles. But not with a sony dongle. The key part of the dongle was a heap overflow exlpoit.

And you are wrong, the hypervisor glitch is related to the jailbreak in the sense that it allowed to dump privileged ram. Without it, the heap overflow exploit that the ps jailbreak used wouldn't have been discovered.

hypervisor glitch exploit -> dump ram -> find usb heap overflow when searching for service jig -> psjailbreak.

[carldenning]

Originally Posted by Elyssion Yes, we could run unsigned apps with jailbreak dongles. But not with a sony dongle. The key part of the dongle was a heap overflow exlpoit. And you are wrong, the hypervisor glitch is related to the jailbreak in the sense that it allowed to dump privileged ram. Without it, the heap overflow exploit that the ps jailbreak used wouldn't have been discovered. hypervisor glitch exploit -> dump ram -> find usb heap overflow when searching for service jig -> psjailbreak.

but what i was trying to say is that with out sony jig none of the stuff would of happend if the info etc never got leaked out . they wouldnt of known about the power eject etc and how the jig worked

it might of happen somepoint a diffent way round but we never will know that road