[cyberdude]

when i click the readmore tab i just get a database error.cant read it.

[valkirie]

Am I the only one who is getting what he is doing by not releasing the keys? Has anyone ever heard of the old saying.....Give a man a fish and he eats for a day, teach him how to fish and he eats for a lifetime? Apparently not. He worked hard at finding a way to decode the keys, and if he found them, then there is a way to do it. Did anyone think that maybe he wants to push other developers out there to do the work themselves, so as to have more people with the knowledge to follow his work? I personally think that he is doing the right thing by not releasing the keys. What happens when Sony releases a new set of keys? Do we expect Mathieu to spend time and effort to decrypt the new keys and release them just like that? BS....to all those crying foul over this....think of this....without him and others....we wouldnt have 3.55. Besides....do you blame him for not wanting to get involve in the same hot mess that Geohot got involved in? Flame me all you want, but it is his right to do this.

[depblkman]

Allow me to play the devil's advocate here. I don't think that Math would be such an arse if he wasn't dogged and dragged through the mud all the time. Just think, would you want to do something for someone who keep shatting on you all day? Call him what you want but you have to respect his skills at least. Granted, he may have the keys to the kingdom and don't want to share due to not wanting pending litigation against him from sony but that's not a reason why people in the scene should call him names. We should respect all of the Legit dev's on the scene rather they contributed a little or a lot regardless of how we feel. I'm in school right now, learning how to become a Developer so that i can contribute to the scene.

[Rage_of_Inferno]

"Public doesn’t need those keys, you can downgrade to 3.55 (via hardware) almost all PlayStation 3 out now (about 40 million consoles are vulnerable), and it’s possible to run Linux (via OtherOS++) or homebrews on them. I think it’s quite enough to make the PlayStation 3 one of the most open consoles in the market."

"I think if they’re unhappy, nothing prevents them to work and retrieve these keys by themselves. I’ve published more than one method to recover them."

Well said Math. I think there are too many people who think something is owed to them. It's this attitude that stops developers from wanting to release their findings. I think he enjoys listening to people cry about what he won't do for them and I find it amusing as well.

[psg]

Originally Posted by Rage_of_Inferno "I think if they’re unhappy, nothing prevents them to work and retrieve these keys by themselves. I’ve published more than one method to recover them." Well said Math. I think there are too many people who think something is owed to them. It's this attitude that stops developers from wanting to release their findings. I think he enjoys listening to people cry about what he won't do for them and I find it amusing as well.

"Nothing prevents them to work and retrieve these keys." There's many things, actually. One of them being missing talent. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. If it was that easy, Mathieulh could run a marrathon tomorrow, climb the highest mountain, play football for his country's national team, and do many, many more things for which he doesn't have the right skillset. That's just arrogance, or comes across it that way, at least.

Maybe a lot of people that care to contribute to the PS3 scene just aren't that capable in that field. Which means they wont be able to do it. I am not that into the PS3 scene, honestly. I haven't turned my PS3 on in months, I just come here to find out about the state of the PS3-scene. I don't know about anything this guy has done, nor do I especially care about him. But from what I can gather, he is a very, very talented, and skilled man. Sadly, he also only works for his own amusement, it seems. Back in the day, in the blackhat, and even greyhat and whitehat scenes, all information was to be free. People would find an exploit, replicate it, automate it, then after a while share it with the public. Nobody would give out bits of information, then go "now do the rest of the work yourself!" That's just bad form. Either you would release it all, or you would keep your mouth shut, to gain from your discoveries in one way or another.

This all just seems like he does it for the attention, at least all his announcements without any sort of concrete documentation, are. I would also like to see -- should the keys ever be found in a way similar to his methods -- how many important bits of information were left out intentionally, to make it harder for developers, and to drag out the process, so his stay in the limelight would last longer. Seems like something someone who enjoys profiling as much as he does, would do.

He doesn't owe anyone anything, obviously. He doesn't have to release a single bit of information, either. Perhaps he is right and the public really doesn't "deserve" them. But since when has that mattered, in the "war" for information? As it stands, though, taunting the "scene," with his insufferable arrogance, is completely bad form, and a man with his intelligence should stand above such nonsense.

He may be brilliant, but he's also, when it comes down to it, a self-important egoist. At least that's what I gather from seeing this interview, and what the public has to say about him.

[Rage_of_Inferno]

He said "WORK" at getting the keys. You don't become talented by whining on the forums about how selfish someone is. When it comes down to it what do people want the keys for? To pirate new games right? He's saying no one needs the keys because we can downgrade. We already have everything we need besides full access to the ps3 rsx so why complain? If I had the keys I wouldn't release anything either. Make a release so I can get sued and a bunch of cry babies can steal Battlefield 3?

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by Rage_of_Inferno He said "WORK" at getting the keys. You don't become talented by whining on the forums about how selfish someone is. When it comes down to it what do people want the keys for? To pirate new games right? He's saying no one needs the keys because we can downgrade. We already have everything we need besides full access to the ps3 rsx so why complain? If I had the keys I wouldn't release anything either. Make a release so I can get sued and a bunch of cry babies can steal Battlefield 3?

I think you missed the point. It's not about what he does or does not do, it's how he acts about it that winds most people up.

Of course there are people who want spoon feeding and given the easiest way to pirate a game, but there are also people who want to learn and beat the barriers for legal reasons.

He acts like a Master (as in educational title) but refuses to teach, and please do not cite the wee hints he lets out as teaching people.

'Head up ones own backside' is the term I think suits him best, and that is Not an insult about his abilities or even his views on Piracy etc, just that he gets a buzz from acting superior and dangling 'the carrot'

You would find that if he gave valid reasons for not releasing things instead of just acting like a demi-God then most intelligent people would respect his choices and support him (I know I would).

[psg]

Originally Posted by Rage_of_Inferno He said "WORK" at getting the keys. You don't become talented by whining on the forums about how selfish someone is. When it comes down to it what do people want the keys for? To pirate new games right? He's saying no one needs the keys because we can downgrade. We already have everything we need besides full access to the ps3 rsx so why complain? If I had the keys I wouldn't release anything either. Make a release so I can get sued and a bunch of cry babies can steal Battlefield 3?

Talent is not something you gain by work, it's something you either have, or you don't. It really is that simple. You can practice to hone talents, no question; That way you become more skilled at what you do. If you don't have a talent for something, no matter what it is, or how much you work at it, you will not become talented. You will learn something, you will get better at it, but you will never be as good as someone who actually has "the knack" in that field. Mathieulh acts like what he is doing is easy, because to him it is. He pretends that everyone else can do it just as easily as him, while really knowing it's not the case, since nobody -- not even with hints and "help" -- comes even close. Talent is the reason why Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi make millions a year, while you (pressumably) and I, both play for Pub-Teams (think Bar, not "public"), even though we train as much as them (or in my case more, since I love football, and for years my life consisted of playing it for 7 hours a day).

What the keys are to be used for, is really none of my, your, or anyone elses concern. In the end it just doesn't matter. He doesn't need a reason to not release anything. I don't care if he doesn't, I truly, honestly, don't. I have a homebrew capable PS3, and one to play new games with. Yet I barely touch them anymore. If he doesn't want to do it, he doesn't have to. It's his work, he gets to do with it whatever he wants. But does that mean that I, as an objective onlooker to his persona, can't comment on it? No, no it doesn't. I call it how I see it. My gripe is with how I perceive him, through this interview. It's filled with contempt for his "equals" in the scene, and reeks of arrogance. Comments like "graciously provided," show unwarranted self-importance out the ying yang. Since when do people do this for fame? He speaks of amesia; is he afraid that people will forget what he once did for the scene? Back in my hacking days I would release an exploit, and was happy that I was forgotten within a week or two. The public will never kiss your ass for what you did. Never. If you wanted it any other way, however, you would do what you do for the wrong reasons. We used to hack because it was fun, a challenge, and because information was meant to be free for everyone.

We have a method to downgrade, correct. But it's complicated, expensive, and not very user-friendly. There is apparent need for an easier alternative. We used to have a cure for fever and other health related problems, it was called "bloodletting." It worked, but wasn't ideal. So people thrived to find better cures, and as soon as they found an alternative, shared their wisdom with the world, and brought the process along. Here we have someone that already is a step further, but wont share his findings with the world. It's not exactly the wished outcome. The way he goes about it, makes it all the worse.

Don't talk about getting in legal trouble, please. He's already taunting sony, and showed videos of him actually breaking their protection once more. That's enough for them to go after you, I would say. Furthermore releasing docs on how to circumvent the protection, described in detail without an actual automitation, can easily be released anonymously. There's hundreds of ways to do that. He wont do it, for whatever reason, which I am okay with. He doesn't have to, as, again, he doesn't owe anyone anything. But that wouldn't stop anyone that actually had the intention of sharing knowledge.

This interview, and further research, shows that this guy loves the attention. By the way, not wanting credit for help in scene projects, when you later on talk about doing just that, means nothing. Because this way you not only tell people that you help, but also try to make yourself look like you're being generous and "humble," while being just the opposite.

[alienkid]

I agree with a lot of what you're saying @psg , but I'll be honest with ya....

If I had to worry about the threat ...not fact, threat of a lawsuit...? I'll be easy with info too.

Arrogant, he appears to be. But I respect him for living his life in not wanting to be hassled with a lawsuit.

[Rage_of_Inferno]

Ok you don't like him because he's an A hole who enjoys watching people suffer. I still don't understand why anyone feels like he needs to do anything for anybody. You say you dont like how he acts but you still come back and talk about how he isn't doing something for you. Maybe you should go into an IRC chat and see if he wants to teach you something after the way you talked about him. Do you see MY point? It's like "oh math you didn't release the method to qa flag my machine you suck i bet your video was fake blah blah blah... can you release the 3.60 keys so i can steal games?" Why would he cater to such an ungrateful group of individuals? I think using the keys for piracy is everyones issue since we all pay the price for the thieves that don't support the gaming industry. And comparing "bloodletting" to someone releasing a hack is just ridiculous.