[yizhigou]

lol i dun really worry abt the dongle and the update.(just buy it if ni nokuni is supported)
the only thing i wonder is where the hell i get the game. since it dun suport normal rip game. i dun really wan to depend on jb2 team for the rip. wat if one day they just disappear.

[Cypherous]

Originally Posted by bubba Update: They are putting Updates on the Discs for the Dongle .. I find that out last night .. When you get the Dongle it will come with 1.0.. Then when you Buy any game from them they have the new updates on the Disc's like 2.1ver!!! Getting Smarter!!! LOL

Are you able to pull the update from the disc because this won't help people like myself who plan to be playing retail games with it

[Buggerlugz]

If you can't use JB2 to play retail titles, then it misses the point completely IMHO. I'd love to know if MW3 works on it.

[shak360]

It seems the ps3jb2 loads masterdiscs with fself, with the algo provided and the right key (which is not provided) you can decrypt said masterdiscs images right on pc and grab the fself files.

// do crypt
unsigned char sector_key[16];
memset(sector_key, 0, 16);
sector_key[12] = (sector_num & 0xFF000000)>>24;
sector_key[13] = (sector_num & 0x00FF0000)>>16;
sector_key[14] = (sector_num & 0x0000FF00)>> 8;
sector_key[15] = (sector_num & 0x000000FF)>> 0;

// encrypt sector
aes_context aes_ctx;
aes_setkey_enc(&aes_ctx, G_DEBUG_KEY, 128);
aes_crypt_cbc(&aes_ctx, AES_ENCRYPT, aligned_size, sector_key, buff, buff);

// decrypt
aes_context aes_ctx;
aes_setkey_dec(&aes_ctx, G_DEBUG_KEY, 128);
aes_crypt_cbc(&aes_ctx, AES_DECRYPT, aligned_size, sector_key, buff, buff);

that's the algo for masterdiscs
ps3gen dll has the static keys for masterdiscs
you can also get it from sv_iso
the crappy sdk tool that generates masterdisc images for dex


more talk:

folks
I looked a little more
and it seems the psjb2 just runs masterdiscs
with fself
kinda lame
very lame
npdrm encrypted but labeled as fself
it's a fself but I dunno what it does
I never looked at it
I don't really care on doing more
if you use the masterdisc algo I provided
and the proper key
which I am not supplying
you can decrypt all the psjb2 disc images
right on pc
grab the fself
and use them to run them on a regular 3.55 fw
basically security == LAME
still interesting to see how they patched the firmware to allow masterdiscs
they also do some auth with the dongle
which involves crypto
to make sure the firmware does not load without it
but if you don't need the firmware to load the games...
they could have added some extra keys in appldr and encrypted the damn eboots at least
I guess they didn't have enough time or enough spu skills

Regarding FSELF from "RikuKH3":

Real FSELFs are never encrypted. You can extract it with official unfself tool from SDK.
But, in this FSELF I looked into (driver sf) ELF inside IS encrypted. You can say this because it's masterdisc fself, but I really doubt it.
It doesn't look like a proper fself to me at all, in header it says that sections unecrypted, but it's not true.
Another thing - Masterdisc Generator tool from Sony gives errors with this EBOOT (if it's a masterdisc eboot as stated, why?).

Seems the above from mathieulh may be incorrect and the eboots ARE encrypted. So much for lame security, maybe this wont be so trivial?

Source: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?...se_Engineering

http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?...se_Engineering

[dreamcrawler]

These guys are not selling a backup solution, or a way to play 3.60+ games on 3.55. They are selling a dongle that only works with the "special game disks" they sell as well so you can't play your own backups on 3.55. They claimed they were selling empty special blurays so you could burn the games on them but it seems they sell the dongles bundled with the games, you cant do your own backups.

This product is going nowere but getting some good hacker reverse enginering it to take out the method they use, stick it on a CFW, and put that dongle on the litter.

Dont give a cent to these guys selling JB2, they are just making profit from piracy.

[lukethomasx]

were all rooting for you bubba! Anything more you find out will be awesome to read about

[keliuss]

Originally Posted by dreamcrawler These guys are not selling a backup solution, or a way to play 3.60+ games on 3.55. They are selling a dongle that only works with the "special game disks" they sell as well so you can't play your own backups on 3.55. They claimed they were selling empty special blurays so you could burn the games on them but it seems they sell the dongles bundled with the games, you cant do your own backups. This product is going nowere but getting some good hacker reverse enginering it to take out the method they use, stick it on a CFW, and put that dongle on the litter. Dont give a cent to these guys selling JB2, they are just making profit from piracy.

Your information is a little out of date. What you are saying is correct for the dongle bubba has. Apparently he has one of the original test/trial units from Indonesia. When the dongle goes on sale properly from 12th Nov there won't be any need for "special discs", and we can use 3.6+ games from the hdd.
I don't know the details of how this is achieved but, my facts are from reading the info from GaryOPA on the JB2/TB thread over at crunch.

Regards
Keliuss

[michael_scz]

Originally Posted by keliuss Your information is a little out of date. What you are saying is correct for the dongle bubba has. Apparently he has one of the original test/trial units from Indonesia. When the dongle goes on sale properly from 12th Nov there won't be any need for "special discs", and we can use 3.6+ games from the hdd. I don't know the details of how this is achieved but, my facts are from reading the info from GaryOPA on the JB2/TB thread over at crunch. Regards Keliuss

budy where do you get that date????? can you share it??

[Buggerlugz]

Originally Posted by shak360 It seems the ps3jb2 loads masterdiscs with fself, with the algo provided and the right key (which is not provided) you can decrypt said masterdiscs images right on pc and grab the fself files. // do crypt unsigned char sector_key[16]; memset(sector_key, 0, 16); sector_key[12] = (sector_num & 0xFF000000)>>24; sector_key[13] = (sector_num & 0x00FF0000)>>16; sector_key[14] = (sector_num & 0x0000FF00)>> 8; sector_key[15] = (sector_num & 0x000000FF)>> 0; // encrypt sector aes_context aes_ctx; aes_setkey_enc(&aes_ctx, G_DEBUG_KEY, 128); aes_crypt_cbc(&aes_ctx, AES_ENCRYPT, aligned_size, sector_key, buff, buff); // decrypt aes_context aes_ctx; aes_setkey_dec(&aes_ctx, G_DEBUG_KEY, 128); aes_crypt_cbc(&aes_ctx, AES_DECRYPT, aligned_size, sector_key, buff, buff); that's the algo for masterdiscs ps3gen dll has the static keys for masterdiscs you can also get it from sv_iso the crappy sdk tool that generates masterdisc images for dex more talk: folks I looked a little more and it seems the psjb2 just runs masterdiscs with fself kinda lame very lame npdrm encrypted but labeled as fself it's a fself but I dunno what it does I never looked at it I don't really care on doing more if you use the masterdisc algo I provided and the proper key which I am not supplying you can decrypt all the psjb2 disc images right on pc grab the fself and use them to run them on a regular 3.55 fw basically security == LAME still interesting to see how they patched the firmware to allow masterdiscs they also do some auth with the dongle which involves crypto to make sure the firmware does not load without it but if you don't need the firmware to load the games... they could have added some extra keys in appldr and encrypted the damn eboots at least I guess they didn't have enough time or enough spu skills Regarding FSELF from "RikuKH3": Real FSELFs are never encrypted. You can extract it with official unfself tool from SDK. But, in this FSELF I looked into (driver sf) ELF inside IS encrypted. You can say this because it's masterdisc fself, but I really doubt it. It doesn't look like a proper fself to me at all, in header it says that sections unecrypted, but it's not true. Another thing - Masterdisc Generator tool from Sony gives errors with this EBOOT (if it's a masterdisc eboot as stated, why?). Seems the above from mathieulh may be incorrect and the eboots ARE encrypted. So much for lame security, maybe this wont be so trivial? Source: http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?...se_Engineering http://www.ps3devwiki.com/index.php?...se_Engineering

So its looking like they probably have debug eboots, have re-encrypted them and are using their own keys on the dongle to decrypt their own "special Blu-rays".

So it don't work with retail discs, and is basically a money making scheme for them to rake in $$ ££ or many rupiah (think that's what Indonesia uses)

[PatrickBatman]

Originally Posted by michael_scz budy where do you get that date????? can you share it??

Well I know one trusted reseller says Nov 12th, they're taking pre-orders until then (lightake)