[Señor_Striatum]

Originally Posted by pereb27 Could it be simply that the console's logic board was broken? Although you did install a firmware completely... Maybe it was a BD bypass firmware? Or rebug firmware is like that? It's the only thing I can think of. EDIT : Wait, so it got YLOD during the firmware update? If that's the case, I still think it was a bad logic board, or maybe not the original one.

Well his blu ray doesn't work so the logic board could be messed up. I received it with cfw already but perhaps the previous owner bypassed the board. Although this explains my inability to update it does not explain the inability to load multiman. Therefore, I think the problem may reside else where. I thought the same thing originally but the board appears fine... although looks can be deceiving.
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Originally Posted by Nichibotsu sorry for the late reply... yeah, about the thermal sensors... Reflowing will most certainly blow those up, even though i have more than once saw them still kicking after a reflow it's more up to luck than science, as you cannot have a good control with a heat gun. Anyway having them running after the reflow won't keep your console from overheating, they were working (supposedly) before the overheating, and changing the thermal paste will just make it last longer without the proper adjustments. Wish you best of luck with your repair : )

Thank you. I have one question regarding your reply. How are you able to observe the thermal sensors still kicking? Is there an anticipated output u can measure? As in voltage or amps? Or are you implying that they do not appear physically damaged afterwards? Thanks for your time and I intend to use your guide so thanks for that as well.

[KillerBug]

You can't actually see the thermal diodes because they are inside the chips, but you can read the voltage drop if you have precise probes. Plus, their readings control the fan...if the fan doesn't kick in when the chips get hot, then you know the didoes or the sensors are damaged. Of course, if the fan goes full speed right away, that also indicates damage.

[Nichibotsu]

Originally Posted by KillerBug You can't actually see the thermal diodes because they are inside the chips, but you can read the voltage drop if you have precise probes. Plus, their readings control the fan...if the fan doesn't kick in when the chips get hot, then you know the didoes or the sensors are damaged. Of course, if the fan goes full speed right away, that also indicates damage.

As he said : )

[pereb27]

Originally Posted by Señor_Striatum Well his blu ray doesn't work so the logic board could be messed up. I received it with cfw already but perhaps the previous owner bypassed the board. Although this explains my inability to update it does not explain the inability to load multiman. Therefore, I think the problem may reside else where. I thought the same thing originally but the board appears fine... although looks can be deceiving.

Actually, this would explain why multiman wouldn't load.
The PS3 hypervisor is unable to function properly if the BD logic board is not present or broken, resulting in black screen whenever you try to run a homebrew app or PSN game.

[Señor_Striatum]

Originally Posted by pereb27 Actually, this would explain why multiman wouldn't load. The PS3 hypervisor is unable to function properly if the BD logic board is not present or broken, resulting in black screen whenever you try to run a homebrew app or PSN game.

Really? This is good to know. Looks like he may have several problems then. Thanks for the info. I got a lot to consider now and finally have the console. YLOD fix will be first then perhaps a logic board remarry.
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I recall having read about a mfw that bypasses the logic board. Do u or anyone know anything about this or Im incorrect?

EDIT: after briefly reading seems u can bypass the bd but not the logic board. Would love to be corrected though...

[Nichibotsu]

Originally Posted by Señor_Striatum Really? This is good to know. Looks like he may have several problems then. Thanks for the info. I got a lot to consider now and finally have the console. YLOD fix will be first then perhaps a logic board remarry. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* I recall having read about a mfw that bypasses the logic board. Do u or anyone know anything about this or Im incorrect? EDIT: after briefly reading seems u can bypass the bd but not the logic board. Would love to be corrected though...

when you fix the ylod, pereb let me know of an error in my guide, as he is tha one that came up with the removal of the heat sinks, he discovered it's safe to do it if you have a 90 nm processor, if you have lower ones you may break the cell as the glue is stronger on newer models... I'll update the guide asap, i did not have much time lately, just don't do it or you might end up with an unusable motherboard : )

[pereb27]

Originally Posted by Señor_Striatum Really? This is good to know. Looks like he may have several problems then. Thanks for the info. I got a lot to consider now and finally have the console. YLOD fix will be first then perhaps a logic board remarry. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* I recall having read about a mfw that bypasses the logic board. Do u or anyone know anything about this or Im incorrect? EDIT: after briefly reading seems u can bypass the bd but not the logic board. Would love to be corrected though...

When you try to update firmware with a broken or not present logic board, you get update loop with error 8002F14E. The BD bypass firmware only allows you to not get that error and update properly without a board, it does not make the PS3 work without it.

The rest of the BD (motors, sensors and lens) doesn't matter, the hypervisor and firmware updater only check the BD logic board.

[Señor_Striatum]

Originally Posted by Nichibotsu when you fix the ylod, pereb let me know of an error in my guide, as he is tha one that came up with the removal of the heat sinks, he discovered it's safe to do it if you have a 90 nm processor, if you have lower ones you may break the cell as the glue is stronger on newer models... I'll update the guide asap, i did not have much time lately, just don't do it or you might end up with an unusable motherboard : )

I will let u know. I have taken the RSX heatshield off of a cechgo1 with no problems so I'm ok with this model. Thanks
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Originally Posted by pereb27 When you try to update firmware with a broken or not present logic board, you get update loop with error 8002F14E. The BD bypass firmware only allows you to not get that error and update properly without a board, it does not make the PS3 work without it. The rest of the BD (motors, sensors and lens) doesn't matter, the hypervisor and firmware updater only check the BD logic board.

So I'm planning way ahead here but would u happen to know if the remarrying process reconfigures the mobo, the logic board, or both? I would like to remarry my logic board to his ps3 to verify the problem, but would doing this require me to marry the board back to my console again? I am a little on time is why so every bit counts. So to put simply can 2 ps3s share the same logic board?

[pereb27]

Originally Posted by Señor_Striatum So I'm planning way ahead here but would u happen to know if the remarrying process reconfigures the mobo, the logic board, or both? I would like to remarry my logic board to his ps3 to verify the problem, but would doing this require me to marry the board back to my console again? I am a little on time is why so every bit counts. So to put simply can 2 ps3s share the same logic board?

Remarrying reconfigures only the logic board, using information from the EID.
If you remarry a board to another PS3, it will no longer work on the PS3 it was originally on.
Also on CECHA-CECHG you will lose BD playback with the new board, unless you have access to the DRL files that go with the logic board, or know the first BD with highest MKB it ever played. Ofc you will regain it by putting the original one back (DRL is tied to logic board, basically).
2 PS3's cannot share the same logic board. However, you can have more than one logic board work on one PS3.

[Señor_Striatum]

Originally Posted by pereb27 Remarrying reconfigures only the logic board, using information from the EID. If you remarry a board to another PS3, it will no longer work on the PS3 it was originally on. Also on CECHA-CECHG you will lose BD playback with the new board, unless you have access to the DRL files that go with the logic board, or know the first BD with highest MKB it ever played. Ofc you will regain it by putting the original one back (DRL is tied to logic board, basically). 2 PS3's cannot share the same logic board. However, you can have more than one logic board work on one PS3.

Dude your a beast thank you. I thought I knew what was up with remarrying. I can preserve BD playback if I copy the dev_flash files right? I am familiar with knowing the highest DRL but I am not entirely sure about what I would do with them. I can look that up though.