[baargle]

Originally Posted by Ginko It doesn't matter if most can't hack and seem "greedy" to get their hands on your work. You should be glad. I've spoken to many hackers in my day and they were all always willing to share what they have, no buts or ifs and piracy wasn't even an issue. They pirated, like YOU ALL DO and always will do.

This... ^

Never a truer word spoken. Piracy\leechers have been around as long as hackers\crackers - and in the same ratio -

[FireF1y]

Have you ever though that due to what happened to Holtz that he dose not want to give it away under his name. Maybe he has got people thinking it was leaked to keep his name clean.

Food for thought.

[bigo93]

But what most hackers want to do is to run homebrew applications, and as stated one of the results of that is and always will be piracy; there is nothing a dev can do to stop it, apart from not release.

So yes this leak may enable piracy on almost all consoles, but it will also allow those hackers who want their own homebrew apps to work on newer firmwares, to work. (assuming this leads to unlocking the ps3 completely or even anything at all)

If math is serious about not increasing piracy, he should stop developing hacks, or just keep it to himself and not boast about having done something first. It's not helpful at all, makes everyone hate him.

Just remember that if someone does create something nice with this exploit to still thank math for making it, even though he wasnt going to release it anytime soon

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by mihakase Let the people have their cake and eat it, otherwise prepare to be crucified, essentially.

Not essentially...exactly. Where would microsoft be if they refused to release windows? Where would adobe be if they had bragged about photoshop and then never released it? Even people who release apps that are useful to only 1% of the community get mad props...but Math doesn't because HE DOESN'T RELEASE ANYTHING.

[Warning]

It sure would be nice if we could get a good ps3 Linux installation guide. I know there probably is one on this site somewhere but there has been lots of improvements lately and could use one that is fully up to date.

[H3avyRa1n]

I wonder why people call my post a tutorial, it's not, it's a technical writeup on how to exploit metldr, with several (brand new) now documented exploits and the explanation on how the leaked .self file works.
It's not some guide on how to use the leaked files themselves (that's just compiling the leaked spp_verifier_direct port and using it to load the self as a loader), It's really about how the exploit works (something only the author of the leaked files would be able to explain) and also about how metldr could be entirely exploited from scratch even without knowing the loader keys with the help of another exploit I disclosed in my post (one the leaked files did not use).

Source

[H3avyRa1n]

Is anyone aware that actually someone (which is also a ps3hax member) already managed to use this stuff successfully and get his root key? Of course not, everyone seem much more interested in flaming and discussing useless stuff..

Props to you @lunuxx

[medi01]

Originally Posted by oPolo Math's level of skill really is unparallelled.. I as a software developer really envy him. We should all be grateful for the help he's given. Also before this, regardless of how it has been passed on to us.

Except as software developer you shouldn't envy him, since he's not a software developer. Don't confuse it with reverse engineering the code.

As far as I've followed the scene:

1) geohot is the biggest talent, hands down
2) all devs have pirated IDA (it costs about 10k Euro) but only Matieulh was hypocritical enough, to ***** about being oh so against piracy while actually pirating

[abdelkarim]

Originally Posted by H3avyRa1n I have a suggestion, what about move this thread to the drama section and start a clean thread regarding this subject with USEFUL information like thoughts and findings about this exploit so we can actually reach somewhere good?

this is a good idea

[Phreeq]

Originally Posted by abdelkarim this is a good idea

Don't you guys know how a forum works?

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