[Rob1980]

Excuse my "noob" comments and questions, I'm just still a liitle confused.

I'm reading lots of different theories, but some make no sense to me.

According to the diagram on ps3wiki the bootldr, and lvl0 are completely separate from the metldr, surely this exploit does not help us get any closer to bootldr or lvl0?

As for higher firmware cfw, or modified eboots, metldr gives us lv1ldr, lv2ldr, appldr etc...

Ofw 3.55 and below are as above, and we already have the public keys released by geohot, possibly using this exact exploit, allowing us to sign eboots cfw etc.

However, in future firmwares lv1ldr, appldr etc have been moved And weneed lv0ldr / bootldr.

So without those, and without otherOS on higher firmwares surely we can still do nothing without lv0ldr or bootldr?

The way im reading it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I hope I am, we have gained nothing other than to learn how geohot did what he did, or a similar method, but without any progress from that being possible with this exploit?

[laurorual]

Originally Posted by TheEvolution_PT Anyone already see this:http://pastebin.com/8ZCqqsQq Sorry if it double post.

what is it?

[mrsoczi]

That's the dump that user lunnux has made with the new exploit.

[Elegant]

Originally Posted by Rob1980 Excuse my "noob" comments and questions, I'm just still a liitle confused. I'm reading lots of different theories, but some make no sense to me. According to the diagram on ps3wiki the bootldr, and lvl0 are completely separate from the metldr, surely this exploit does not help us get any closer to bootldr or lvl0? As for higher firmware cfw, or modified eboots, metldr gives us lv1ldr, lv2ldr, appldr etc... Ofw 3.55 and below are as above, and we already have the public keys released by geohot, possibly using this exact exploit, allowing us to sign eboots cfw etc. However, in future firmwares lv1ldr, appldr etc have been moved And weneed lv0ldr / bootldr. So without those, and without otherOS on higher firmwares surely we can still do nothing without lv0ldr or bootldr? The way im reading it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I hope I am, we have gained nothing other than to learn how geohot did what he did, or a similar method, but without any progress from that being possible with this exploit?

metldr exploit gives console key. Console key is just that the console key so in order for the bootldr (the first thing in the link in 3.60+) to operate it would need to be encrypted with the console key since it's, well, the key for the console. Using Math's exploit it is most likely possible to not even need the key and just exploit through it. Take a look at what was written on page 27, 29 and the one prior to this one.

[yozh]

Originally Posted by Rob1980 Excuse my "noob" comments and questions, I'm just still a liitle confused. I'm reading lots of different theories, but some make no sense to me. According to the diagram on ps3wiki the bootldr, and lvl0 are completely separate from the metldr, surely this exploit does not help us get any closer to bootldr or lvl0? As for higher firmware cfw, or modified eboots, metldr gives us lv1ldr, lv2ldr, appldr etc... Ofw 3.55 and below are as above, and we already have the public keys released by geohot, possibly using this exact exploit, allowing us to sign eboots cfw etc. However, in future firmwares lv1ldr, appldr etc have been moved And weneed lv0ldr / bootldr. So without those, and without otherOS on higher firmwares surely we can still do nothing without lv0ldr or bootldr? The way im reading it, and please correct me if I'm wrong, I hope I am, we have gained nothing other than to learn how geohot did what he did, or a similar method, but without any progress from that being possible with this exploit?

well this aint about cfw eboots (piracy) this is the botton of the console, the heart of it, once bootldr key is retrieved, well you pretty much own the console, because neither metldr and bootldr are updateable or revoked, this means that you can install in 1 year ofw 5.55 on your ps3 but your bootldr key is still the same, with this key you can decrypt your consoles stuff, people think that with this whole thing going on they will see a cfw just around the corner, imo thats pretty unlikely because we are not there yet, people need to see the big picture, not just piracy, with those keys found, people pretty much can write the code that they want, sign it at those levels and run it, allowing you to write your own firmware, owning the machine at those levels (metldr, bootldr) and sign everything after those 2 loaders, well you practically can do anything you want...

thats my opinion, i can be wrong, correct me if i am but thats the way i see this whole stuff.

people really need to understand that cfw is no on the horizon, but great things are coming..

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by yozh well this aint about cfw eboots (piracy)

Not meaning to stray off topic, but eboots have nothing to do with piracy, many people buy the games and hope for an eboot fix.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by depblkman I don't think that people realize the potential power that has been leaked. eventually, people will come to understand it. I know a lot of people want to play online as well as have cfw but why keep pushing for cfw when the ability to be able to play any game regardless of the FW is at our fingertips? Knowledge is power. We need to keep this in mind as we go forth. IMO, making cfw just for the purpose of going online is a waste of time. the possibility of dual booting gives me hope and hopefully soon, finding a way to dual boot otherOs and GameOs would be the stuff.

Well I partially agree but dunno if you seen my posts on other threads about some facts why 3.55 starts to get old you'll get what I mean...
For example 3.72 added a new kernel function for PS2 Classics that would be epicly wanted by everyone and could allow us to play every PS2 game on non-BC consoles.
There are more reasons like the new PSP emu with antialiasing on 960x540 on 3.70 but my point is that there will be firmwares with nice features why not take potential of them? It's sad and a pitty not to... :/
The reason that we hack our PS3 (if we are not pure pirates) it's because we want to push it's functionality off limmits right?

[Elegant]

@VIRGIN KLM I believe that's true for about 5% of the scene give or take. (Am I lying?) Though I'd personally be a lot happier if I could play some of my PS2 and PSP games on my PS3 through backups

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by Elegant @VIRGIN KLM I believe that's true for about 5% of the scene give or take. (Am I lying?) Though I'd personally be a lot happier if I could play some of my PS2 and PSP games on my PS3 through backups

The way is a different story.
The ability is all that matters and being on 3.72 CFW would allow us to...
Or atleast if Math wants to help us without releasing anything, just lead us how we can decrypt the contents of a PS2 classic game so we can acquire the optimized self emu file to understand to keep us busy to understand how it works.
Is that such a big deal?

[yozh]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Well I partially agree but dunno if you seen my posts on other threads about some facts why 3.55 starts to get old you'll get what I mean... For example 3.72 added a new kernel function for PS2 Classics that would be epicly wanted by everyone and could allow us to play every PS2 game on non-BC consoles. There are more reasons like the new PSP emu with antialiasing on 960x540 on 3.70 but my point is that there will be firmwares with nice features why not take potential of them? It's sad and a pitty not to... :/ The reason that we hack our PS3 (if we are not pure pirates) it's because we want to push it's functionality off limmits right?

yes but apparently the features you mention are not off limits, you can update your console and get those features, or just get another ps3.

offlimits would be to use your console at its full power gaining control a 100% of your hardware, and this exploit is the tip of that because with the other missing key (i know you know is stored in the bootldr) you would gain control of the chain of trust, letting you run any code that you want after bootldr, how cool is that!

btw in order to build a 3.7x cfw new keys are needed, and as far as i know or at least no one has made it public, no one has succeeded doing that.

so no, no cfw in the near future