[stevorkz]

Ok...ive never flamed any dev and certainly not him and I understand where all you guys defending him are coming from but this is where I object.

The PS3 scene is a scene. A group of devs who all share a general interest in cracking open a PS3 (a machine once said to be the hardest machine to hack) and creating homebrew on it but most of all...a scene is meant to be "FREELY AVAILABLE". Ya sure you can argue and say "Well they have a choice whether to release there work or not" but a scene is meant to be sharing and working together. The flow of information needs to be kept flowing or else all you resemble is an entity like Sony.

This is NOT...the place to anounce you have done something which will make MANY sceners happy with the results but at the same time proclaim you wont be sharing what you have found out or a method.

Someone said it earlier and I couldnt agree more : THERE ARE PEOPLE AT SONY THAT CAN DECRYPT THE KEYS SO HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN DO THIS. We knew that all along and seen as though he is not telling us how he did it how is he any different to sony?

"Ya but dude hes just letting us know its doable" - Crap. Of course its doable read the capital letters above. Ive been in the hacking scene for a long time. The ps3 scene not too long I admit. But what Ive seen and learnt is EVERYTHING IS HACKABLE. Its just a matter of time and effort.

He may be smart and a bit more intelligent than most of us but quite frankly what he just did is no different to a scene on a play school playground consisting mainly of 5 year olds and it doesnt take much intelligence to know that what he did is EXTREMELY childish.

He only did this because when a new CFW does come out then he can say "Ya its because of me you losers". If hes scared that Sony will come after him if he releases anything then hes not thinking straight. If CFW was released anonymously tomorrow, who do you think Sony is going to eyeball after this?

Anyways to cap off Im not angry at him because I want CFW and am out of patience (like some of you are by the sounds of things), Im angry because hes not acting like hes part of a scene. Dude, if the feeling of helping the ps3 hacking community is not good enough for you, then stick to your word and leave the scene. If I had the skills that you do I wouldnt think of the ungrateful people and not release stuff...I would do it for the scene...the community...the free flow of information.

I wont be flaming about you anymore or on this topic as Im done giving you exactly what you want....attention.

[baargle]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin That's why i said 90%, there is a very small minority in this scene that cares people like you. But the majority don't care, especially the warez kids, im not debating whether warez is good or bad, but it seems the general consensus with that group is "if you don't hack it to enable new pirate games, you are no good", i have even seen posts(on a warez site) asking who graf_chokolo is... I also do agree that some times math goes to far with his "bragging", but that's they way he is and by him showing that screenshot, its proof to show, that it can be done, all it needs is someone willing to go that extra mile.

How does that work? If somebody could do it, they would. This isn't the kind of project people learn from scratch as their first programming assignment. It takes years of education and hands on experience to get the skillset needed to do the things he is doing of course.

It's not about going the extra mile.

That's like telling someone who's got cancer that they can overcome it if they just try a little harder.

He's given a few tips but nobody has managed to do anything with it. t just reminds of being about 4 years old when "University Challenge" was on TV in the UK, the questions themselves didn't make sense, let alone thinking of an answer. I'm sure that's what anybody but the best of the best thinks.

Heck, it did take 4 years for the PS3 to even be hacked at all. Why didn't fail0verflow try harder during those 4 years? It's just silly to think a few vauge hints are going to get someone to be able to do this themselves. You've got it....or you haven't.

I'll go that extra mile, where would you like me to go? I metioned walked the Camino de Santiago which is 500 miles, I'll walk it again if Math releases the keys after i finish...just to prove a point. I'm sure Math can relate to it since it starts in France I'll even scrawl Maths name on all the yellow arrow waymarkers so he can be known by all.

On the other hand if someone asked me to walk it and not tell me where to start EXACTLY i'd have a hell of time doing it, if you get me.

[tekirkedicik]

Originally Posted by assmunch3 **** 99% of you. You guys are the ones that flame on Math constantly. You guys never even considered that he did release the psgroove that got the ps3 scene started and helped other devs in the background of said scene, and has also done a ton on the psp scene. You whiney little *****es are the reason the scene is dead. Why would anyone put in the work for free just to give to you ungratefull *******s.

He deserved to be flame bait forever yes everyone know what he did
but past is past look in present day why do you think everyone flamed him ?
Cause He said I got the knowledge and I'm not going to share it you know you
you and your kind is the sole reason who calls pirate to anyone wants to play new games on his or hers cfw'ed console buy it some said İ am buying it
but I cant play it without upgrade and forget my good homebrew aplications

[cyberdude]

give it me,ill release it.
**** sony.

[wikdclown]

People should be like "oh thats nice" then go on with their lives, im sure eventually when everyone just forgets about him they will be much better off. He knows how to do it we know that the only hope any of the regular people got is if someone takes pity on us lol.
Dont feed his ego and he will either go away or help he is like a spoiled child showing off his new toy if nobody gives a hoot its not so special anymore :/

[mathieulh]

Originally Posted by stevorkz Ok...ive never flamed any dev and certainly not him and I understand where all you guys defending him are coming from but this is where I object. The PS3 scene is a scene. A group of devs who all share a general interest in cracking open a PS3 (a machine once said to be the hardest machine to hack) and creating homebrew on it but most of all...a scene is meant to be "FREELY AVAILABLE". Ya sure you can argue and say "Well they have a choice whether to release there work or not" but a scene is meant to be sharing and working together. The flow of information needs to be kept flowing or else all you resemble is an entity like Sony. This is NOT...the place to anounce you have done something which will make MANY sceners happy with the results but at the same time proclaim you wont be sharing what you have found out or a method. Someone said it earlier and I couldnt agree more : THERE ARE PEOPLE AT SONY THAT CAN DECRYPT THE KEYS SO HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN DO THIS. We knew that all along and seen as though he is not telling us how he did it how is he any different to sony? "Ya but dude hes just letting us know its doable" - Crap. Of course its doable read the capital letters above. Ive been in the hacking scene for a long time. The ps3 scene not too long I admit. But what Ive seen and learnt is EVERYTHING IS HACKABLE. Its just a matter of time and effort. He may be smart and a bit more intelligent than most of us but quite frankly what he just did is no different to a scene on a play school playground consisting mainly of 5 year olds and it doesnt take much intelligence to know that what he did is EXTREMELY childish. He only did this because when a new CFW does come out then he can say "Ya its because of me you losers". If hes scared that Sony will come after him if he releases anything then hes not thinking straight. If CFW was released anonymously tomorrow, who do you think Sony is going to eyeball after this? Anyways to cap off Im not angry at him because I want CFW and am out of patience (like some of you are by the sounds of things), Im angry because hes not acting like hes part of a scene. Dude, if the feeling of helping the ps3 hacking community is not good enough for you, then stick to your word and leave the scene. If I had the skills that you do I wouldnt think of the ungrateful people and not release stuff...I would do it for the scene...the community...the free flow of information. I wont be flaming about you anymore or on this topic as Im done giving you exactly what you want....attention.

If it's so "easy" feel free to do it eh ?

[usab99]

Whaaaaaaat. why math why did you leave. **** the haters. come back

[Sexbox]

Geohot > Matthew.

Matthew lost, all his trolling meant nothing in the end, he'll always be remembered after those who released stuff.

[TDMaster]

well what the breakself.exe needs to do in order to decrypt the lvl0.self ..?

[Sexbox]

Originally Posted by havok7 math is reading the forums now and getting so exited that people give him attention,and from all that exitement his e-penis got 5 inches longer,he is jerking off now like there is no tomorrow

So now he has a 5inch penis? He's moving on up!