[rpgguy999]

Yeah.
Since using the "shared lsa" method can get lv0.
We should get a new exploit soon. (My opinion)

[TheWhiteTyger]

Hey everyone, Math has told us before how to get a hold of the 3.60+ keys ourselves. I'm no coder, but this info is enough to get me to start learning some stuff.

IRC quote from possibly before 4/21/2011:

[Mathieulh] just look at how selfs are processed by ldrs

[Mathieulh] and you’ll find it

[Mathieulh] hell, I’ll help you, it’s about overflowing a certain buffer

[Mathieulh] well if you know how selfs are processed by loaders, it’s easy

[Mathieulh] another hint

[Mathieulh] it happens before the ecdsa check

[Mathieulh] It’s a retarded exploit

[Mathieulh] if you want to know what it is, I’ll tell you

[Mathieulh] the function that copies the SCE header from the shared LS to the isolated Local Store

[Mathieulh] doesn’t check the header’s size

[Mathieulh] it’s just THAT retarded

[Mathieulh] implementing it isn’t easy though

[Mathieulh] cause loaders have failsafes and sh*t

[Mathieulh] but now that you know, you can try it on your own

[Mathieulh] you craft a self with a HUGE header

[Mathieulh] so it overwrites ldr code as it gets copied to the isolated LS

[Mathieulh] and you wait the loader to jump to it

I hope this info isn't a bad taste in everyone's mouth, and I'm not sure if this is the proper place to put this, but if this info has been out for a while, then it seems that he told us so. He has pointed us in the right direction and he isn't hording info like many have claimed. He just doesn't want to do the work for us because the PS3 scene will sour and turn into the PSP scene where $ony will abandon the console almost all together and stop making games for us.

Just trying to help some peepz to understand why he does what he does, because I was on the "I dislike mathieulh because he won't share 3.60 keys" for a moment because like many of you all, I was ignorant and didn't know how much he really contributed to the scene. So enough bashing, we drove him away by begging and whining (and yes me too silently) so just leave him be.

Thanks to Mathieulh, DeanK, Rogero, graf_choloko (sorry if i misspelled it), Wanikoko (I know I misspelled his) and every dev out there working for free with not much credit to them because now companies are suing these poor guys for something that they shouldn't be able to since GeoHot won the case against Apple and we should be allowed to run what we want with OUR hardware.

The more we fight and bicker, the more immature we look to these guys and why would anyone want to reward behavior like this with more hard work?

$ony is the true enemy because they promise us the world and deliver devices that reduce the capabilities upon new updates. Let's fight against them and whine and b*tch on THEIR website. Granted they did make a decent console, but that console was built on pre-exsisting technology that has been thrown together and sold to us and told that it is still theirs somehow.

P.S. if I seem like a butt-kisser, it's because my eyes are open as I have been doing some research into why the 3.60 keys have not been yet released and now I see the bigger picture. I'm just trying to help explain to others as well. Feel free to bash, I'm quite used to it all for real, and in the internet life.

[Konkor]

Don't get me wrong and all but couldn't anyone make that in a batch file? How do we really know that its real?

[xerxesrex]

Originally Posted by jesdaking latest from the dev irc think they are gonna crack it soon ;-)

fingers crossed

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by Konkor How do we really know that its real?

It’s nice that people ask questions. But why is real important? Isn’t this thread all about philosophy and brainstorming?

From dreams you can make a new reality, and that’s what hacking is all about if you ask me.

[Selena85]

In all honestly, I already knew this was in his capability so I'm not all that surprised. It would be different if say... Dark Alex came back and did it... or even if a lesser known dev did it.

[Konkor]

Originally Posted by advocatusdiaboli It’s nice that people ask questions. But why is real important? Isn’t this thread all about philosophy and brainstorming? From dreams you can make a new reality, and that’s what hacking is all about if you ask me.

It depends how you look at my post, from one point it can be taken as a question and another it can be rhetorical providing an aspect in which it could give some though. We haven't really seen any real proof, just a screenshot of a CMD Prompt. Which anyone could generate with basic batch coding knowledge. Although I am one for riddlers, poems and what not I don't know what your quote has to do with anything?

I wasn't trying to disrespect anyone, I was merely voicing an opinion and stating a small fact that it could be fake.

[alienkid]

@TheWhiteTyger

Well stated.

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by Konkor I wasn't trying to disrespect anyone, I was merely voicing an opinion and stating a small fact that it could be fake.

Whoever spends time considering it’s fake, does not live the dream, does not philosphize, but demand entertainment and should be disregarded in terms of an opinion like a statement as: fake.

If you want it so bad that you like to judge others, please sit down and rather make it yourself, none of us here capable or not, have any debts to society saying that we have to make it happen, or that if we are able to make it happen; release it... If I have a solution, I choose, if I would like to release it.

Some people choose not to, please respect that.

[Konkor]

Originally Posted by advocatusdiaboli Whoever spends time considering it’s fake, does not live the dream, does not philosphize, but demand entertainment and should be disregarded in terms of an opinion like a statement as: fake. If you want it so bad that you like to judge others, please sit down and rather make it yourself, none of us here capable or not, have any debts to society saying that we have to make it happen, or that if we are able to make it happen; release it... If I have a solution, I choose, if I would like to release it. Some people choose not to, please respect that.

I am not demanding anything, I wouldn't hack my PS3 anyway I see no need. I don't want anything, if you can show me a post where I have said anything along the lines of "I want this so badly, but its fake" then please show me? Also I was not judging I was just stating an opinion, which in my personal view is that it needs more evidence. That is not begging for it, also for me to respect other peoples opinions and views they must respect mine. It works in two ways.