[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by TizzyT LOL sounding like math isn't so bad, don't hate yourself. I would like to come up with a method that doesn't have to use an unwatermarked audio for comparison and in a sense check for difference to remove, because if you have an unwatermarked version there would be no purpose to do such a method. DVDFab apparently can do such a thing, Although I have an idea to remove it I need a cinavia test file lol. Does it have to be LPCM??? because apparently it survives re-encodings. LPCM is lossless if i remember correctly.

Well there are movies that you don't have an unwatermarked audio stream as a reference but as long as you learn how it works you know how the watermark works on any audio stream. Also LPCM since it's lossless audio and uses RAW data with a header it means because of the nature of Lossless Audio, if you edit something wrong trying to remove the watermark from the file it causes the file to be destroyed so removing the affected bits and passing it through a Error Correction program that works perfect and losslessly with Lossless Audio files it results on a watermark free audio file.
I consider Cinavia a trick of geting advantage of the fact they can hide stuff inside a file relying on psychoacoustics and especially on masking effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoa...asking_effects).

[fahadsul3man]

Restrictions by sony on their products or not i will still be buying them cuz i had amazing experience with all of their products psx ps2 psp ps3 sony trinitron sd tv sony bravia hd tv pretty soon i will be buying their phones i m not a fanboy i just find their products to be better then their competitors ( thats my my opinion)

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by fahadsul3man Restrictions by sony on their products or not i will still be buying them cuz i had amazing experience with all of their products psx ps2 psp ps3 sony trinitron sd tv sony bravia hd tv pretty soon i will be buying their phones i m not a fanboy i just find their products to be better then their competitors ( thats my my opinion)

The amazing PS3 experience? The amazing trinitron experience? The amazong Bravia experience?

Thanks for the many laughs. Yeah...sony was great 10 years ago, but that was different management with different products and different policies. If you want to support the new sony then you deserve the products that you buy...or rather, the products that you rent because you can't buy anything from Sony anymore.

[TizzyT]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Well there are movies that you don't have an unwatermarked audio stream as a reference but as long as you learn how it works you know how the watermark works on any audio stream. Also LPCM since it's lossless audio and uses RAW data with a header it means because of the nature of Lossless Audio, if you edit something wrong trying to remove the watermark from the file it causes the file to be destroyed so removing the affected bits and passing it through a Error Correction program that works perfect and losslessly with Lossless Audio files it results on a watermark free audio file. I consider Cinavia a trick of geting advantage of the fact they can hide stuff inside a file relying on psychoacoustics and especially on masking effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychoa...asking_effects).

So you wanna make a method public or should I ??? lol.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by TizzyT So you wanna make a method public or should I ??? lol.

I'm sure I'm not the only one able to do what I said obviously, it's really easy if they don't implement a new algorythm but since I work in the music industry I know what could be the consequences of breaking a DRM and I don't want to show my real identinty so I could be an easy target.
Also I pretty gave a full tutorial how not only to remove the watermark but even reverse engineer it, you could even create a movie with a watermark (LOL). Now somebody needs to make a program/plugin that does what I said (maybe there is already one, I haven't checked for a long time, I'm no genious or something, It's just that how people know how to code/develop etc, I know very very very well anything that has to do with audio).

[Mackdanny]

You said movie file from hard drive? Hasnt happened to me. Also that otheros thing is underway since a while back.... But by the us air force (google it, long story)

As for the "sue so we can get the keys to open homebrew" there is NO WAY that will ever happen, it's a failed battle. So the only issue I see here is the cinavia. That you can take it up with them, but for everything else it's not your battle. Not trying to put you down in any way, but it's reality.

[TizzyT]

Originally Posted by Mackdanny You said movie file from hard drive? Hasnt happened to me. Also that otheros thing is underway since a while back.... But by the us air force (google it, long story) As for the "sue so we can get the keys to open homebrew" there is NO WAY that will ever happen, it's a failed battle. So the only issue I see here is the cinavia. That you can take it up with them, but for everything else it's not your battle. Not trying to put you down in any way, but it's reality.

Last I checked the airforce is running all their PS3's on firmwares before sony removed OtherOS. might be wrong.

[Mackdanny]

Originally Posted by TizzyT Last I checked the airforce is running all their PS3's on firmwares before sony removed OtherOS. might be wrong.

No, you're right, but the reason they're suing is because if one dies, YLOD, etc etc, then they have to send it in, and when they get it back you can't guarantee Sony will honor their wishes to have a pre- 3.21 firmware just cuz it's " policy".