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Dont know if this is against multiMAN user binding agreement/Open Source license

Application for PS3™ content management. multiMAN (referred hereafter as "SOFTWARE"), its authors, partners, and associates (collectively "ASSOCIATES") do not condone piracy. This SOFTWARE is an open project, distributed in the hope that it will be useful, while all ASSOCIATES expressly disclaim any implied warranty of merchantability, WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE and WARRANTY OF NON-INFRINGEMENT. The SOFTWARE shall be used for educational and testing purposes only, and while it may allow the user to create test copies of legitimately acquired and/or owned content, it is required that such user actions shall comply with local, federal and country legislation. Furthermore, the ASSOCIATES shall assume NO responsibility, legal or otherwise implied, for any misuse of, or for any loss that may occur while using the SOFTWARE. You are solely responsible for complying with the applicable laws in your country and you must cease using this software should your actions during multiMAN operation lead to or may lead to infringement or violation of the rights of the respective content copyright owners. This SOFTWARE is not licensed, approved or endorsed by "Sony Computer Entertainment, Inc." (SCEI), SNEI, SEN or any other party. September 15th, 2011

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by Zara That's true but can you actually take somebody else's free software and include it in your own for which you charge money? That doesn't seem right. BTW, this says a lot about MultiMan's quality and usability.

It's not that it doesn't seems right, it's illegal.
They can't use a source code registered under GNU public licence without authorization and profit from it.
Also:

* New display mode "XBDM" - XBOX Dash Clone


Are they really able to implement that, it sounds like something deank could/would do very roughly guessing from his last update on the project...

I'M ACTUALLY MAD BECAUSE SOME F*CKERS AFTER CALL PS3 SCENERS DRAMA QUEENS, SO DO THEY HAVE A DESCRIPTION FOR THIS, HOW DO THEY CALL THEMSELFS? THERE ARE DEVELOPERS THAT GET MAD WHEN THEIR WORK GETS STOLLEN AND THEY BLAME SCENERS FOR THEMSELFS BEING RETARDED. THIS HAS TO STOP, IF YOU DON'T LIKE PS3 SCENE LEAVE EVERYBODY ALONE OR QUIT LIFE, YOU'LL MAKE MANY PEOPLE HAPPY.

[Zara]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief MM is free, it is the Dongle that isn't.

Yes, MM is free. Cobra (which needs the dongle and the CFW to work, right?) is a product that's not free. I don't know if you can download the CFW for free or not but it's irrelevant. To use the features, you need to pay money. CFW needs the dongle, dongle needs the CFW so you're pretty much paying for both to provide you with a certain service. Once MM becomes a part of that CFW, it obviously stops being free because YOU CAN'T USE IT WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT (amongst other things, ofcourse).

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by dsadsadsa To anyone who supported Cobra: now is the time to feel bad about yourself for supporting these leeches, who are just as bad as True Blue.

This dongle isn't like TB. Unlike TB, this dongle adds features that are not for pirating games. It adds a whole lot more than TB. PS2 playback in non-ps2 capable consoles (to a degree), playing back ups of PS2 games, and playing PSP games on the PS3.

Cobra is not selling a dongle that only allows pirating games.

Originally Posted by Zara Yes, MM is free. Cobra (which needs the dongle and the CFW to work, right?) is a product that's not free. I don't know if you can download the CFW for free or not but it's irrelevant. To use the features, you need to pay money. CFW needs the dongle, dongle needs the CFW so you're pretty much paying for both to provide you with a certain service. Once MM becomes a part of that CFW, it obviously stops being free because YOU CAN'T USE IT WITHOUT PAYING FOR IT (amongst other things, ofcourse).

Windows is not free either yet a lot of opensource programs are available for it. Your point is moot.

The program itself is under GNU. With that said though, they have to provide source and a changelog I believe.

[Zara]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief This dongle isn't like TB. Unlike TB, this dongle adds features that are not for pirating games. It adds a whole lot more than TB. PS2 playback in non-ps2 capable consoles (to a degree), playing back ups of PS2 games, and playing PSP games on the PS3.

Did you notice that after saying "this dongle adds features that are not for pirating games" the only features you mentioned are actually for pirating games? The difference between Cobra and TrueBlue is really not that big when you think about it.

[GregoryRasputin]

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by Zara Did you notice that after saying "this dongle adds features that are not for pirating games" the only features you mentioned are actually for pirating games? The difference between Cobra and TrueBlue is really not that big when you think about it.

Wrong, you can still play games you own from each console, it just leaves you with flexibility of your choice between pirating or not pirating.
TB is all about pirating, nothing else.
Also somebody for Deank's sake frontpage that thing.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief Windows is not free either yet a lot of opensource programs are available for it. Your point is moot.

His point is far from moot, i know you are a huge fan of Cobra, but do not let that blind you are cloud your comon sense.

You CANNOT use this version of mM WITHOUT the dongle.

If you want this better version of mM you MUST buy the dongle.

Therefore using this new version of mM, gives a better selling advantage for the dongle, so everything that @Zara said is correct
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[VIRGIN KLM]

It's about time for a supposed good developer that respects fellow developers to stand up and hack immediatelly that dongle, then maybe we can rethink if his beliefs etc were all that real as he said...

[Zara]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Wrong, you can still play games you own from each console, it just leaves you with flexibility of your choice between pirating or not pirating. TB is all about pirating, nothing else. Also somebody for Deank's sake frontpage that thing.

I don't have the dongle so I don't know how it works, if it reads and runs original PS1/PS2 discs then I guess it's okay but still, doesn't it run games in ISO format or something like that? And even if you need ORIGINAL PS1/PS2 discs to use the backward compatibility, what about PSP since there's no way PS3 can read UMD discs?

Cobra charges for backward compatibility, TB charges for "forward" compatibility. In both cases, the choice between pirating or not pirating is yours and ONLY yours so, as I said, the difference between the two dongles is not that big.