[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by Zara I don't have the dongle so I don't know how it works, if it reads and runs original PS1/PS2 discs then I guess it's okay but still, doesn't it run games in ISO format or something like that? And even if you need ORIGINAL PS1/PS2 discs to use the backward compatibility, what about PSP since there's no way PS3 can read UMD discs?

Fail, lol, did you take the time to read the changelog or you just went on and posted out of randomness?
Also if you were unable to dump your own ISOs from your UMDs how would the whole internet be filled with ISOs, you don't make sense...

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin His point is far from moot, i know you are a huge fan of Cobra, but do not let that blind you are cloud your comon sense. You CANNOT use this version of mM WITHOUT the dongle. If you want this better version of mM you MUST buy the dongle. Therefore using this new version of mM, gives a better selling advantage for the dongle, so everything that @Zara said is correct .

His point is moot in that it is an opensource program. Being opensource, it can be edited by anyone (they cannot make it closed source, but they can edit it and add features, but most of what was added was really support for the dongle which is the thing that houses said added features). I do not have a cobra dongle, nor will I ever buy one unless it gets an unbelievable ultra feature of some kind. I have a PSP and a PS2. I was just saying that Cobra offer more than TB and that TB was made to profit from piracy, a point I find unsavory.

A price is not being charged for the program, it is free, the only area I see that it might have a problem is if they did not provide the source code for it, which would make it illegal according to the licenses it is under.

[ps3tricks]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief This dongle isn't like TB. Unlike TB, this dongle adds features that are not for pirating games. It adds a whole lot more than TB. PS2 playback in non-ps2 capable consoles (to a degree), playing back ups of PS2 games, and playing PSP games on the PS3. Cobra is not selling a dongle that only allows pirating games.

I agree with what you said!

But then Cobra has just added more features to enjoy in piracy,like playing psp iso and ps2 iso ,psx iso,bin cue,same **** with more features.

a bit offtopic sorry

From what i have heard (Big rumor) TB v3.0 update is in work,when they release it,it will surpass Cobra features.What are the features i really don't know,i personally don't care much abouth both now.

anyway we will know soon if DeanK has joined or not

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Also if you were unable to dump your own ISOs from your UMDs how would the whole internet be filled with ISOs, you don't make sense...

That is not what he said, he said the PS3 cannot read UMD's

And if people seriously think that Cobra isn't used for piracy, then they are crazy, deluded and senile.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin That is not what he said, he said the PS3 cannot read UMD's And if people seriously think that Cobra isn't used for piracy, then they are crazy, deluded and senile.

Ummm, it can, read the changelog...
I repeat:
You can use it's features without being a pirate, you have freedom of choice in this matter.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Ummm, it can, read the changelog...

lulz, so you are trying to say, you can put an UMD into the PS3 ?

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin lulz, so you are trying to say, you can put an UMD into the PS3 ?

No but you can plug your PSP on USB mode and read directly from UMD.
Come on people, you can do better than that...
I never said that it doesn't leave you being able to pirate, I said that it doesn't restrict you from being a non-pirate.

[Zara]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM No but you can plug your PSP on USB mode and read directly from UMD. Come on people, you can do better than that... I never said that it doesn't leave you being able to pirate, I said that it doesn't restrict you from being a non-pirate.

What's wrong with you man? You can't go buy a game and then download a TB fix and play it?

I give up. The dongles are so different that one would think they came from 2 different universes, I see that now, thanks dudes.

As for the MultiMan issue, even if it's legal, it's still wrong on so many levels. And I still think that there's no way Deank would allow this or he has anything to do with it. I'll be convinced when he speaks about it himself.

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin That is not what he said, he said the PS3 cannot read UMD's And if people seriously think that Cobra isn't used for piracy, then they are crazy, deluded and senile.

My point was that Cobra adds features that are not piracy only oriented. TB was originally released with the purposes of:
1. Selling the dongle for a profit.
2. Selling pirated games for a profit.
It was only recently that support for digital copies was added.

Cobra adds features that can be used just like multiMan:
1. The ability to play PS2 backups. Your own in order not to scratch your discs. Piracy is allowed through this sure, but MM does the same with PS3 games.

2. The ability to play PSP games. UMD I am not sure since their changelog is a bit hazy, but you can back up your own UMDs and play them on the PS3. Same concept as #1, can be used for piracy, but can also be used legitimately.

3. PS2 game play on non-BC consoles. While from what I hear this feature isn't too stable, it is still more than what Sony has provided.

[kgb_]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM You can use it's features without being a pirate, you have freedom of choice in this matter.

Well yes, its all about users choice; cobra added support for multiMAN, it didnt make multiMAN better, its not a better multiMAN version as it was refered to, it simply is an alternative to the cobra manager and it is the choice of the user to download it or not, as i understand it does not come packed with any current cobra firmware update.

I dont agree with adding multiMANs code to it, but what they offer is support and that may not be illegal or against the source code license it was released into; it does not add cobra functionality to multiMAN, it allows multiMAN to be a alternative to their manager, all special/ custom functions of cobra are only present in the dongle, multiMAN is just a way to load/access them, it does not have those functions on his own/ in his code