[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Ok guys hand bags away, if you want to argue, do it on IRC, its more fun that way

Yep agree, I just don't want people to think they can say whatever they want and get away with that, not that it's not obvious to the rest members what's happening but I just respect myself you know...!

Well back to ontopic I kind of worry that deank haven't put a word on the matter so far...
I hope it's just that he didn't notice.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Yep agree, I just want people to think they can say whatever they want and get away with that, not that it's not obvious to the rest members what's happening but I just respect myself you know...!

If you think someone has said something offensive, just report it.

[TizzyT]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin If you think someone has said something offensive, just report it.

Well is it offensive that I used to think your name was "Gary" Rasputin lol, until like months in and then I realize that it was Gregory??? lol, I'm such an idiot lol.

And where ever Deank is I'm sure there is a computer there or somehow he has internet connectivity, I'm sure (guessing) he knows about it.

[Persian McLovin]

Awesome, this device is seriously the best gadget I have ever purchased! Finally I can now select my PS2/PS1/PSP games with covers and they won't look like crap!

Thank you Cobra once again.

[pereb27]

I have mixed feelings about this...
As a Cobra user, I'll try to be as objective as possible, but I can't guarantee I won't be biased a little.

I really like that they added the ability to use MM in conjunction with their dongle/features, as MM is much better than their manager, but that's besides the point.

I don't know much about this GNU/source code stuff, but from what I read in this thread, it seems like their modded MM should be at least usable without the dongle, with the dongle features disabled.

It shouldn't be surprising they did this. IMO, it's not really a matter of legal/illegal, after all Cobra team is chinese (correct me if I'm wrong). Nothing in China is illegal xD And chinese people will do anything for money. I'm not saying that's right though, nor I think it is.

Another thing is, they're not forcing the Cobra users to use their modded MM, as their own manager is still up for download on their website.

@GregoryRasputin mentioned the possibility of using MM in order to get more sales. While this may be true to an extent, I don't think people who refrained from buying this will now buy it because it supports Multiman. What people buy this dongle for is the dongle features, not a good-looking manager. So I don't think this will help them get more sales.

However, they're also improving the manager besides cobra features :
"- Bugfix: special keys of bdremote weren't working in showtime."
"XBOX Dash Clone"

They're improving the manager itself, and this isn't available to those who haven't paid for the dongle, and this is wrong.

I probably missed some points, but as a conclusion, I think them using MM would be alright if :
1- They asked deank for permission (I'm pretty certain deank is not involved in this)
2- They made their version of MM usable by people without the cobra dongle, only with the cobra features disabled.

While I like being able to use MM for Cobra, I don't really like those practices. However, they're still way higher than True Blue in my book.

EDIT : Did Cobra remove this news on their front page? Maybe they're up to something to "fix" this issue? I doubt it, but we never know.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Well atleast now everybody will agree there are some serious reasons to hack that dongle excluding the idea to bring the features as a free option.
Since Mathieulh is all about developers and their rights etc and he is a member of that forum, he supposed to have an opinion on the matter since deank is also a fellow member and developer, but I guess this is a joke right?
Ah some people just make points and they constantly contradict themselfs, which is not really wise for being in such an open community such as the internet...

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by pereb27 @GregoryRasputin mentioned the possibility of using MM in order to get more sales. While this may be true to an extent, I don't think people who refrained from buying this will now buy it because it supports Multiman. What people buy this dongle for is the dongle features, not a good-looking manager. So I don't think this will help them get more sales.

A lot of people are shallow and wouldn't touch a device if it had an awful BM, now you have the most awesome BM and multimedia piece of software available on the PS3, bundled with a Dongle, of course they think they will gain more sales with it.

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Well atleast now everybody will agree there are some serious reasons to hack that dongle excluding the idea to bring the features as a free option.

This whole dongle crap needs to stop, these scummy people that are milking the PS3 scene for all it can get, need to be put down.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin This whole dongle crap needs to stop, these scummy people that are milking the PS3 scene for all it can get, need to be put down.

Well how can you advise them to stop when Sony does that milking thing over and over and stronger and stronger?
They don't have the best role model to follow...!!!

[Warning]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM Enough with every random guy posting an offensive post just because he woke up one day thinking he is smarter than somebody and he can do it...

condorstrike is a scene legend.

[VIRGIN KLM]

Originally Posted by Warning condorstrike is a scene legend. Condorstrike could teach you all day because obviously you have a lot to learn.

Yes but offence is offence, it's not like there is any excuse to it.
Seriously I'm no saint or wise guy or something but, sometimes, I may know exactly what I'm talking about.
I don't question condorstrike's abilities or contribution I just questioned if he really knows how GNU public licences work. If he was correct then there wouldn't need to be the term "royalty free for all uses" in a different kind of public licence, they would be equal so there wouldn't need to be 2 different licences for the same thing.
Now if law is going to take effect as it should in GNU violation cases that's an other story. I just said that twisting my words and filling gaps that I skipped telling that people could guess easilly is not really flattering for somebody when he is being offensive.
In a context, I meant that if deank have posted the source on google code, it automatically protects him with a GNU licence, so if he wants he can send to google team an email requesting for Cobra team to come to an agreement with him or to just take down mM from their site and generally providing it.
Simmilar cases happened dozen times in the past, with stuff that have to do with hacking too, why did everything worked in the past well and is not going to work now?