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Old 11-27-2011   #101
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Originally Posted by Ubefuct View Post
Point being where is the source code so we can change, modify,and merge.
Seriously?
http://code.google.com/p/multiman/
ic some of the code has been removed, but the legalities do not change, since it's been there since the beginning, posted by Dean himself.
wow, well my point is valid, and I showed the proof of it, the source is there and free to use...

I just love how people make anything in this scene a Drama.
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Old 11-27-2011   #102
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really... you fail to understand. Their 3.0 release is not there. Yes his code is there but by coping either full or subtanial code you are at least required to realse source code. Ie the copy,modify, and merge portion of the "Carry over" licence
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Old 11-27-2011   #103
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So now that i read 10 pages and caught up with the debate, i feel that we should wait to hear from Deank. Some people are jumping to their own conclusions and it's causing confusion. I really don't agree with Cobra team taking MM and using it to gain profit which as it stands, is the obvious case. I also agree with the fact that Deank has not released nor made mention of any new changes to MM. I smell a big, dirty, sweaty sewer rat here.
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Old 11-27-2011   #104
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So much accusations, blaming and calling names. I just managed to read all of that and don't see the point.

I'm actually glad that for the first time I see a clone/fork of multiMAN which has things and features ADDED. I've witnessed 4 or 5 releases of multiMAN, compiled by various users or sites, castrated and barely recognizable, renamed and published as 'original work' (there was no drama there, right?!), but this time some users get a better version, although limited to cobra dongle users. As I see it, the new stuff in mmCM is about cobra and it is nice that someone picked up on the 'garbage source-code' (as many qualified it numerous times few months ago), and managed to add useful features to it.

I don't care who uses mm's source, so just stop the drama. The license says 'you can do whatever you want with it' and it doesn't require that you include the modified source or anything. Check your English skills and re-read it. It requires that the redistributed package/version includes the license and it does - there is a ./usrdir/sys/LICENSE file in their distribution.

As I see it - cobra usb users got a new option and that's good - I like that now they can enjoy a multiMAN clone. Actually I feel kind of good that mm will reach more people. As for the mm 02.09.02 being the latest (not last) multiMAN version - well if I find something new to add - I'll add it. I spent a year adding stuff and features and it looks good to me as it is now. If I find time - I'll add more. If you find time to add something useful - add it - the source was there for 7 months and no one cared about that.

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Originally Posted by deank View Post
So much accusations, blaming and calling names. I just managed to read all of that and don't see the point.

I'm actually glad that for the first time I see a clone/fork of multiMAN which has things and features ADDED. I've witnessed 4 or 5 releases of multiMAN, compiled by various users or sites, castrated and barely recognizable, renamed and published as 'original work' (there was no drama there, right?!), but this time some users get a better version, although limited to cobra dongle users. As I see it, the new stuff in mmCM is about cobra and it is nice that someone picked up on the 'garbage source-code' (as many qualified it numerous times few months ago), and managed to add useful features to it.

I don't care who uses mm's source, so just stop the drama. The license says 'you can do whatever you want with it' and it doesn't require that you include the modified source or anything. Check your English skills and re-read it. It requires that the redistributed package/version includes the license and it does - there is a ./usrdir/sys/LICENSE file in their distribution.

As I see it - cobra usb users got a new option and that's good - I like that now they can enjoy a multiMAN clone. Actually I feel kind of good that mm will reach more people. As for the mm 02.09.02 being the latest (not last) multiMAN version - well if I find something new to add - I'll add it. I spent a year adding stuff and features and it looks good to me as it is now. If I find time - I'll add more. If you find time to add something useful - add it - the source was there for 7 months and no one cared about that.

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Dean I just want to say thank you for such a great program, it was awesome to start with but the updates and hardwork that you have put into it and it all being free have been amazing and multiMAN in its latest form looks so sleek, functional and professional, you deserve all the plaudits that you recieve.

I hated the garbage manager that Cobra was using and now I have the best of both worlds...although I hope for the sake of ethics Cobra have at least asked if you would like some royalties in return.

Thanks again.
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maybe the nice comment of a great developer like deank give some of the guys here something to think about.

think about what, stop force drama because this is destroying the idea of a working scene ?!
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It's nice to see deank own's comment on this.
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Originally Posted by deank View Post
So much accusations, blaming and calling names. I just managed to read all of that and don't see the point.

I'm actually glad that for the first time I see a clone/fork of multiMAN which has things and features ADDED. I've witnessed 4 or 5 releases of multiMAN, compiled by various users or sites, castrated and barely recognizable, renamed and published as 'original work' (there was no drama there, right?!), but this time some users get a better version, although limited to cobra dongle users. As I see it, the new stuff in mmCM is about cobra and it is nice that someone picked up on the 'garbage source-code' (as many qualified it numerous times few months ago), and managed to add useful features to it.

I don't care who uses mm's source, so just stop the drama. The license says 'you can do whatever you want with it' and it doesn't require that you include the modified source or anything. Check your English skills and re-read it. It requires that the redistributed package/version includes the license and it does - there is a ./usrdir/sys/LICENSE file in their distribution.

As I see it - cobra usb users got a new option and that's good - I like that now they can enjoy a multiMAN clone. Actually I feel kind of good that mm will reach more people. As for the mm 02.09.02 being the latest (not last) multiMAN version - well if I find something new to add - I'll add it. I spent a year adding stuff and features and it looks good to me as it is now. If I find time - I'll add more. If you find time to add something useful - add it - the source was there for 7 months and no one cared about that.

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Thank you, now that this is cleared up i can use mmCM without feeling guilty xD
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Old 11-27-2011   #110
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Well there you have it folks, straight from the main man. I don't usually post much...but when i do, i make sure it's right.

btw, thanks Dean for clearing it up.
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