[stuck?]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM OK, I just wanted to point out a thing about the update KaKaRoTo made about the case with Mathieulh... The thing is.... blah blah blah blah

I think you worded it pretty well. It's not the classiest of analogies but it gets the point across.

The world is built upon if you give you shall receive; or the whole ask and you shall receive philosophies. And it all works both ways.

I've always believed that you should never bite the hand that feeds you, but when the hand that feeds you constantly taunts you and talks to you like you're an idiot, the feeder will be bitten eventually.

[richi902]

Originally Posted by RickDangerous So, does this mean that without npdrm this JB will never work?

exactly! so be nice to math

[RickDangerous]

Originally Posted by richi902 exactly! so be nice to math

I've always been nice to Math
I don't understand how people can insult someone who has contributed to the scene when they haven't done so themselves.

Anyway, If Math does not reveal his npdrm exploit then Kakaroto has nothing to release?

[richi902]

well he can still share his way of installing pkg on ofw

[loller]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM I really, REALLY hope somebody could forward that message to both Math and KaKaRoTo, many things would get cleared up once and for all.

Dont worry mate, if they really care so much about ppl opinion, they read this forum.
For now i say you thx for share your point of view whit me and others ( even if i'm not kakaroto i appreciate read others opinion)

Originally Posted by RickDangerous I've always been nice to Math I don't understand how people can insult someone who has contributed to the scene when they haven't done so themselves. Anyway, If Math does not reveal his npdrm exploit then Kakaroto has nothing to release?

An excepted post, every 2 post whit sense, i always except at least 2 or 3 no sense post like this.
And btw math isnt the only one behind open source 3.41 dongle, there are a lot of ppl behind this, but i see only math cry for respect atm, you can clarify me why? Why other ppl get respect even if they stay hidden?
If you want to include the QA stuff inside this, well math gave some tips to slink exaclty as someone else gave tips to him, math isnt the one releasing the 1 click pkg you know for flag your console.
I'm sure you arent so idiot to belive that a 20 years french guy pass all his days looking inside ps3 software tryning to figure out something for DONT share after....you always need a input, things dont jump out from dreams.

Originally Posted by richi902 well he can still share his way of installing pkg on ofw

I give you 2 motivation for dont share this:
1.he's pointless since you cant run them
2.He wanted to make a complete jailbreak before risk to get patched, hes not stupid

[abdelkarim]

Originally Posted by loller What guy be subjected to the consequences of the acts of the haters? Thx for share your opinion but you cant talk in general here, make some names.

I can talk in general here if i want to, there's no law that forbid that or any person that can tell me what i can or can't say since i respect the law of the forum.

[loller]

Originally Posted by abdelkarim I can talk in general here if i want to, there's no law that forbid that or any person that can tell me what i can or can't say since i respect the law of the forum.

I dont belive forum rules is : "launch a stone and hide hands or u get banned!"
Is more trustable that you talk in general because you dont have anyone specific to accuse :D
Btw you're free to talk in general, as ppl here are free to add your post in the "pointless post" immaginary list.
This list work exactly as whitelist on 3.60+, he's a filter loaded in our brain who doesnt make us read 90% of reply in a 3d

[zebular]

Im done with all of this scene drama, just going to use a wireless dongle on my pc for my controller and run an hdmi cord to my tv and now i can run all the homebrew i want.

[Warning]

Originally Posted by loller I dont belive forum rules is : "launch a stone and hide hands or u get banned!" Is more trustable that you talk in general because you dont have anyone specific to accuse :D Btw you're free to talk in general, as ppl here are free to add your post in the "pointless post" immaginary list. This list work exactly as whitelist on 3.60+, he's a filter loaded in our brain who doesnt make us read 90% of reply in a 3d

People like loller are the problem. Since we are naming names

[santaro]

Lets, clear up some issues here and the way the majority I feel views Math.

Is he talented ? Yes, we all know this. This has never been an issue. I think the problem most people have with Math and, Math if you reading this dont take offense to it, Is that he holds himself higher then everyone one else and in some ways he puts people down by doing that. The ego is what most people have an issue with not that he doesnt want to release anyhing.

In ways he claims he knows more then all the other devolpers to me that is insulting to the scene and the devolpers & members that support him and by now saying that he isnt going to help or want to help due to hate mails or comments, really shows more of his charcter.

Its freedom of speach everyone has a right to give thier opioin and with that some maybe good some may not. I support all Devolpers equally if Math doesnt want to contriubute thats his choice, but dont blame the scene for expressing their opioins.

Granted, he may or may have not done alot for the scene I cant comment on that as Im not all to fimilar with his work. I do know one thing though that regardless what he does people are still going to have strong opioins about him due to the past events and comments made.

So in closing Math if you reading this, I dont know you personally nor im sure the majority here as well. We can only go by the comments we have read or the words you expressed & from there thats how I personally view you ... Just to clear that up one last time its not what you done or what you can do, its how people view you as a person.

Good Luck to you either way.