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Old 12-07-2011   #21
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I didn't say that. Piracy is no where near better than Homebrew and Linux, but come on, do you actually think that over half of us are actually here for homebrew? I could play ANY homebrew on the computer, even on my old dinosaur PC.

And Linux? The PS3 was hacked because of Linux, ,yes, but who was it useful for? Devs? People without computers?

To further extend on my previous post...

Even KaKaRoTo's exploit is not a solution for over 60% of the PS3 scene's problem, piracy. Yes it is offering "us" homebrew, but by "us", I mean people with 3.60+ firmwares.
Well said, people want the 4.00 jb because they want to play downloaded games, and not linux period. If noone is downloading the games they wouldn't be all over the internet as it is.
The games are on the internet cause people download them
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Old 12-07-2011   #22
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I think Trueblue users saying it's for their own backed up games is daft. You have to buy the Dongle and, as I understand it, there's quite a few TB games that are only available if you buy the physical Blue-ray. Why not just cut out the middle man and update to OFW? That way you actually save money.

I have no problem with TB buyers/users by the way. I don't particularly like the TB team profiting from them but I don't despise them either.
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Old 12-07-2011   #23
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Well said, people want the 4.00 jb because they want to play downloaded games, and not linux period. If noone is downloading the games they wouldn't be all over the internet as it is.
The games are on the internet cause people download them
Furthermore, Linux is very well obtainable on 3.55 and below. So now we don't need a jailbreak for Linux. People on 3.60+ should be smart enough to know that a PS3 with 3.55 is still easily obtainable. My friend just got one from FutureShop with 3.41 as factory firmware.

Now many may argue they are looking for homebrew. All I can say, you are the people with PCs even more dinosaur than my old one. You can play 10x more homebrew on your computer than on your PS3. Want to play in HD? Connect your computer with your HDTV and enjoy the hundreds of emulators out there. Want to play with a controller? Connect your PS3 controller to your computer.

In conclusion, the computer IS the solution for your homebrew. No emulator should run slow on the computer other than the Dolphin (Wii) emulator. So stop using homebrew as an excuse, and admit to piracy.
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Think of TB as a "premium" solution till a free one becomes available. Thats why I think there is such a high price tag for the dongle currently, they know the dongle will be eventually cracked so might as well enough money while they have the chance.
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just like what happened with psjb1
as soon as it is free, support will stop and they will vanish
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Furthermore, Linux is very well obtainable on 3.55 and below. So now we don't need a jailbreak for Linux. People on 3.60+ should be smart enough to know that a PS3 with 3.55 is still easily obtainable. My friend just got one from FutureShop with 3.41 as factory firmware.

Now many may argue they are looking for homebrew. All I can say, you are the people with PCs even more dinosaur than my old one. You can play 10x more homebrew on your computer than on your PS3. Want to play in HD? Connect your computer with your HDTV and enjoy the hundreds of emulators out there. Want to play with a controller? Connect your PS3 controller to your computer.

In conclusion, the computer IS the solution for your homebrew. No emulator should run slow on the computer other than the Dolphin (Wii) emulator. So stop using homebrew as an excuse, and admit to piracy.
maybe i like to lay back on my sofa and play on my tv
maybe i dont want to sit at a desk
maybe my pc is in another room
maybe i like to switch between ps3 games to emu's
maybe i want to use my ps3 as a media centre

its all well and good saying use a pc for homebrew but the same can be said about games. why not use a pc for gaming and forget the ps3 altogether

its preference, get used to it
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Old 12-07-2011   #27
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Originally Posted by STLcardsWS View Post
There's that piracy statement again... Just because some has a TB doesn't make them a pirate.. Maybe they just want to play their legal backups. of games they bought and couldn't play

Seems you want to call people who bought a TB "stupid" and then basically put blame on the people for their excistance for buying their product... When we all know that the best way for TB to go down is make their hacks useless, (like jailbreak 1) .. Not by placing blame on members or to continue to bash people who express their like for the device.. How about we support and encourage development ..

If you are so worried about PIRACY and this thing why are you so eager for it to get reversered/cracked.. That would led to more piracy ....
You should be more eager in the progression of the scene so that the reign of TB is short..

Why so much hate for TB compared to Cobra?

Your mad because they cracked Sony drm? and they are using it on their dongle?

And you think that isn't right?

Well it really sound like "dejavu" you have people showing off post 3.60+ exploits!

Yet they are keeping it for themselves !

Seems like that some of the actions of TB are not the first Dongle or even the first Devs to withhold things.. At least they are give out their findings in some way. Instead of dangling a carrot in front of everyone...

Would you rather have NO TB or at least an option... Yes may not be the best option but its the best as of now.. and all it takes is a little scene progression and they are done...

I think a person work shouldnt put down by anyone.. They did do alot of work.. Otherwise other people would be doing this and releasing the methods. Just do what they did an release the info.. It's that easy right....
It's still wrong to charge people for being able to play their legal backups,
Also using the methods/exploits/code/tools/sdk/etc that the scene originally put out for free and charge us back for the device/software that they developed or to be more exact "to even be able to develop" for the PS3 in the first place is ridiculous. And don't say that "well the dongle is physical and making it free means they will be paying out of their pockets for us", easier thing to do was release the original software "which the device is also their to protect" and make it public for devs to implement into a CFW or open source exploit. And yes it is possible...DON'T argue, I will not reply.

That aside dongles are rubbish altogether as they will only work on CFW and/or under 3.55, it is useless for anyone on higher FW. Well ones argument might be that a dongle for a higher firmware isn't needed because they can already play the newer games on there in the first place, well as that maybe true what then is the point of the dongle for 3.55 again as its clear that patches to these games are possible???

TB doesn't work on 3.56+ then people can't pirate on those firmware. So yeah its a fail as a homebrew tool/device and it fails as a pirating tool/device. I have no idea why people who are on 3.55 are even buying the TB as the games will eventually be made to work on 3.55, and that being potentially true, that only leaves one reason why a dongle should/would exist and that's to allow one to hack/mod/jailbreak on higher FWs which TB doesn't do (and apparently isn't possible). Dongles should only be used to exploit and not a required device to be used.

Only reason why people are buying it is pirating and a more legit reason have the real game and don't have the patience to wait for something that's free and still wants homebrew, which I still don't get as you already bought the games but you are going to dish out another ~80 bucks using something that is supposed to be free to play them???

I don't hate the people buying the TB other then the one Pirating (not because they are pirating but because they are fail at it), and I don't hate the TB itself as I'm sure its inner workings (hardware and software except the existence of a DRM) are good. What I hate is the developer(s) and/or the people behind the developer(s) who had the idea or brought up the idea to make it a closed and costly option/alternative for people.

PS: I state my opinions and if you disagree then that's you, you be you and I be me.
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Old 12-07-2011   #28
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Originally Posted by japsander View Post
maybe i like to lay back on my sofa and play on my tv
maybe i dont want to sit at a desk
maybe my pc is in another room
maybe i like to switch between ps3 games to emu's
maybe i want to use my ps3 as a media centre

its all well and good saying use a pc for homebrew but the same can be said about games. why not use a pc for gaming and forget the ps3 altogether

its preference, get used to it
maybe you're lazy
maybe you can take your pc and connect it to your tv
maybe you have other consoles which have a more variety of homebrew
maybe you can still use your ps3 as a media centre, and some other device to play your homebrew
maybe your still on 3.56+ and not taking your time to try finding a PS3 with 3.55 or below

Why not us a PC for gaming? Because old PCs can't run old games, and new PCs cost alot. But old PCs can still run all sorts of homebrew.

Why can't we go out and buy a $50 PC and still run all the homebrew? Because we are lazy.

its alternatives, get used to it
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Think of TB as a "premium" solution till a free one becomes available. Thats why I think there is such a high price tag for the dongle currently, they know the dongle will be eventually cracked so might as well enough money while they have the chance.
When I think of premium, I think of exclusive and excitement. When I think of TB, I think of ripoffs.

But it's like what you said, "they know the dongle will be eventually cracked so might as well make enough money while they have the chance".
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