[lernatix]

Had the same feeling about 6 months after my PS3 purchase. PC parts costing HALF that of a launch model PS3 had me gaming in 1080p easily. Now that my PS3 has become faulty, I doubt I'm even going to fix it.

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by Ubefuct That is the exact reason I almost didn't buy one(about 6 months ago). I broke down and bought one because the computer won't do split screen gaming. Basically bought one to play with friends and family on one tv. As for the p.o.s. I posted earlier, I'm sure it can studder its way thro just the same as ps3, as sad as that is. 512 split memory come on sony

The P.O.S. you posted has Intel graphics...believe it or not, the PS3 actually has a better graphics chip. A good onboard ATI/AMD/nVidia chip is usually better than the PS3, but Intel is just terrible at doing graphics.

[Ubefuct]

Agreed Intel blows for graphics. I was pointing out that a PC with similar capabilities can be purched NEW for around 200. Used you can get a better gaming PC than the ps3. I still have AGP graphics(unfortunately ATI) with p4 prossesor (3ghz says 1.5&1.5 in BIOS) that can outpreform the ps3. The sheer fact you can upgrade parts instead of a whole machine can make a build much cheaper. As apoosed to buying a new console. There are a couple of down sides tho. No split screen, not as many game releases(altho I seen GregoryRasputin post about onlive, maybe an alternative?)

I know AGP graphics are old an outdated, but a replacement means almost all new parts. So I bought a laptop instead, and turned the old beast into a Linux machine. F U Sony

[jp_cfc09]

Quated Killerbug:
The PS3 launched at $500, which is about what it cost me to build this PC at about the same time. The PC was built with quality parts and hasn't had the slightest issue since...my PS3 has needed repairs on multiple occasions due to the cost-cutting measures Sony used. This PC wasn't even built with gaming in mind...I had just bought a PS3 and the PC was build for CAD. Sure, the CELL is still a great chip...but with a crummy video chip and no ram, it really can't shine in anything except folding. As for multimedia system, the PS3 totally fails there...it can't even play an MKV, and it blocks my DVD backups!!!

that was at launch come on its years later now and costs only £200 i got one brand new for £157, when the ps3 was lunched i was bought a laptop that cost my mother near £700 and ill tell you something its in the bin over 3 years now lol. fair enough if you bought it at launch you got ripped off BIG TIME, but your pc you got can be upgraded to play better but your ps3 cant. also again the ps3 isn't a computer it isn't meant to be able to back up your DVDs it was never meant to have that as a feature at all, i use mines for multimedia and ill tell you something i have over 2000 party tunes, all my holiday pictures from the past two years and videos that play great, i watch all sort of blue-ray DVDs and download movies and watch them perfectly on my 52 inch TV, so to me it isn't a fail. i still stand by my statement that your being a bit hearse comparing the ps3 to a pc thats all.

more examples of unfair compartments: speed of cars and motor bike (bikes are lighter), men are stronger then women (men have better build in general), women are better cooks in general.

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by jp_cfc09 Quated Killerbug: that was at launch come on its years later now and costs only £200 i got one brand new for £157, when the ps3 was lunched i was bought a laptop that cost my mother near £700 and ill tell you something its in the bin over 3 years now lol.

I don't see what you buying an HP/Dell/Sony laptop for too much money has anything to do with this argument. I am talking about desktops built with decent parts, not laptops built with trash.

Originally Posted by jp_cfc09 also again the ps3 isn't a computer it isn't meant to be able to back up your DVDs it was never meant to have that as a feature at all, i use mines for multimedia and ill tell you something i have over 2000 party tunes, all my holiday pictures from the past two years and videos that play great, i watch all sort of blue-ray DVDs and download movies and watch them perfectly on my 52 inch TV, so to me it isn't a fail.

I really wouldn't know about downloaded movies, but I can confirm that the PS3 cuts the audio from legal dvd backups...so that is an intentional fail on the part of Sony. Plus I can't even watch my RiffTrax movies because I use MKV for the multiple audio streams and subtitles, and the PS3 can't play this old format that even a cheap bluray player can with ease. Anyway, everything you just listed can be done on a very cheap PC...so it isn't like the PS3 is offering anything special here.

[japsander]

If it really is that bad, why do you even own one?

As a dedicated gaming platform/bluray player/media extender its perfect for me and I couldn't have built a PC to do the same job for what it cost. No god of war, no gt5, no uncharted, no lbp etc.
An upgrade to a bluray drive was expensive at the time.even 3d games run better on my ps3 than my system can put out. 2.6ghz dual core @3.1ghz/4gb ram/512mb 8800gt

No matter its shortcomings it has functionality and titles that my PC does not.
For a PC gamer, the ps3 may seem that bad but it isn't made specifically for PC gamers

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by japsander If it really is that bad, why do you even own one?

I am seriously considering selling it. To tell the truth, I got suckered by Sony. I honestly didn't think the workstation I built would play games well so I didn't even try. I know it has a 3870, but I only got that to do a software hack to make it into a FireGL at 1/3 the price. I would have spent more on making it game capable, but Sony had announced GT5 and it was already available for pre-sale, so I bought a PS3 and GT5 pre-sale at the same time. It was then years before GT5 came out, so that is why I say I got suckered.

Originally Posted by japsander No matter its shortcomings it has functionality and titles that my PC does not. For a PC gamer, the ps3 may seem that bad but it isn't made specifically for PC gamers

I know it has titles your PC does not (and the PC has titles the PS3 does not), but what functionality does it have over a PC?

[japsander]

Originally Posted by KillerBug I am seriously considering selling it. To tell the truth, I got suckered by Sony. I honestly didn't think the workstation I built would play games well so I didn't even try. I know it has a 3870, but I only got that to do a software hack to make it into a FireGL at 1/3 the price. I would have spent more on making it game capable, but Sony had announced GT5 and it was already available for pre-sale, so I bought a PS3 and GT5 pre-sale at the same time. It was then years before GT5 came out, so that is why I say I got suckered. I know it has titles your PC does not (and the PC has titles the PS3 does not), but what functionality does it have over a PC?

Bluray playback.
The ability to sit back on my sofa to play on the big screen which I cannot use my PC for as it is on a desk
Multiplayer games with the family
Chatting to my friends who have ps3 and playing them
The fact that if something goes wrong to my PC (be it malware/hardware fault) my games are still there
The ability to carry on with my normal PC activities while playing knowing that is isnt going to affect my game
Ease of use for the family. (I'm not letting my 6yr old have access to my PC)
Being able to go to a friends house and using my profile/saves/content there
Not having to play with drivers/codecs, sort out conflicts etc
I can easily take my ps3 with me if I go away on holiday/stay with relatives

Now I did use to be a PC gamer but as far as gfx goes, if there was an option that I could not attain I would still play but be very unsatisfied with it.
With the consoles, whether it be Xbox/wii/ps3 you know that is the limit of what it can do and can just enjoy the game without thinking about constantly upgrading.

The same can be said for all 3 main consoles. Why buy a wii? Why buy an Xbox etc. You can do the same things on a PC.
Consoles should never be compared to a PC as they are totally different. If they were not then they would not exist.
Obviously PC's have/will always have better hardware but they are not as "flexible" and "user friendly" for lack of better words.
I am in no way a fanboy of any system but I just think its unfair to say its pathetic based on a comparison to a totally different platform

[KillerBug]

...So your main problem with PCs is that you are not very handy with them? I guess I can see that. Just be warned: it is far more likely that you will have a PS3 hardware failure than a PC one...and if your PS3 mainboard dies, you can't recover the HDD contents like you can with a PC.

[jp_cfc09]

agree 100% that's all I was trying to get at, its unfair to compare to a pc. to be honest with my ps3 I haven't had one problem I bought it from launch and hasn't failed once and all the games I play work fine. I went through three xboxs and gave up on them as it was a joke how much they failed on me, I have had many family desktop pc and they have failed. its unfair to say cause you bought yours at lunch for $500 its pathetic cause your desktop only cost that and its better. my brother is a heavy pc gamer and to hook his pc to the tv he had to buy some kind of connector thing that cost him £35 and it broke within a month he is onto his second one which cost him £50 for (better brand i was informed lol).

its not that i don't agree with you pc are better running and can preform much more tasks better and faster. its just unfair to compare the two that's all... ones a computer and ones a game console with computer features.

what i take from you is you know your things about computers, but the Marjory of people don't so a ps3 simple and slow as it is does the job better then a pc for them (noob friendly). F*** it ill agree with you its pathetic in the way your comparing it, but does the job for the Marjory of people