[pbanj]

im just going to come out and say it religion has no place and i mean no place in telling people what they can do to their bodies, they also have not place in politics.
Christians also think they are the only religion that should exist. i also love how you compare abortion to the holocaust why not compare it to the christian crusades oh that's right it wouldn't look good for the church. comparing an abortion to the holocaust is like comparing old man Johnson dieing in his sleep to Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Christians act like every one is going out to get an abortion. i am not a fan of abortion but there are some times when its ok like if the girl gets raped, its going to kill her, or the baby is going to have deformities that would ether kill it after birth or make its life a living hell(im not talking about downs).

Christians really need to go back and read their own fairy tail and see that most of the **** they do in life goes against their fairy tail.

[Peacem8ker]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin I really didn't want to do this, but as you are clueless, let me educate your uneducated stance: Oh and to end this post, as i could go on and on and on and on, but for the sake of my fellow members whom i love so dearly, i will leave you with this final statement: Of and before anyone twists what i have said, i am not against Jewish people.

so my "educated" friend, instead of answering my last questions, you are copying pasting me articles which support Palestine.
I can easily do the same and give you the opposite articles which support Israel (and if you really wish me to do so, just give me a go and i'll spam this forum with dozens of facts/articles which deal about terrorism acts towards Israel e.g http://lindasog.com/public/terrorvictims.htm).
btw, why have u decided to start your story from 1947?...why didn't you start it around 1000 years ago? (the past of the 2 cultures is even too complicated for an "educated" person like you to understand that).

Also, speaking about facts, it seems to me that you probably are not aware to the amount of military weapons that is being smuggled to Palestine if you seriously believe that the Palestine militias (mostly the Hamas) using only "stones" (and if you want some proven videos that they use rocket launchers/guns/bombs etc... just give me another go for an endless videos/articles about it too).

I don't know about you, but hatred must be stopped, otherwise, both parties can keep quoting their endless histories of terrorism acts for the next centuries.

PEACEM8KER .

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by Peacem8ker so my "educated" friend, instead of answering my last questions, you are copying pasting me articles which supports Palestine.

It isnt my fault that you are incapable of facing the truth, i do feel really, really sorry for you.

Originally Posted by Peacem8ker (the past of the 2 cultures is even too complicated for an "educated" person like you to understand that).

I understand that your ignorance is blissfully unaware to facts, so you decide to throw insults, nice...

Originally Posted by Peacem8ker Also, speaking about facts, it seems to me that you probably are not aware to the amount of military weapons that is being smuggled to Palestine if you seriously believe that the Palestine militias (mostly the Hamas) using only "stones" (and if you want some proven videos that they use rocket launchers/guns/bombs etc... just give me another go for a an endless spammed videos/articles about it too).

Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against an illegal terrorist sate


Finally if you speak to me with disrespect again, i will remove you from this forum, just because you are ignorant, don't bring it to this forum as you will be ripped apart.


FREE PALESTINE

[ElSalvatore]

Originally Posted by pbanj im just going to come out and say it religion has no place and i mean no place in telling people what they can do to their bodies, they also have not place in politics.

I'm more or less very religious myself, and I can tell you that:
IF you're part of a religion you should follow its rules! If you don't like them - change religion!
Even the Bible says that we (the faithfull, religious people) shall stay out of all political doings! (It doesn't say it exactly that way...)

Originally Posted by pbanj Christians also think they are the only religion that should exist.

Every Religion does so. Wouldn't a Religion be stupid to say "Don't only believe in our God! Maybe he exists, but for the case he doesn't you have a backup-plan!"?

Originally Posted by pbanj i also love how you compare abortion to the holocaust

It wasn't me who made that movie. As I stated MANY MANY TIMES BEFORE IN THIS THREAD (It's not my fault you didn't read it through. Just try to make yourself reading ALS THE PREVIOUS POSTS before you answer ANYTHING!):

It was only the first part of the movie that gave me the impulse!
But anyway: They could've used any strategy to compare abortion to anything else. It's just Hitler and the Holocaust they chose. It was strategy maybe. Maybe it was their only idea they came up with comparing abortion to something? But that's not the point as long the comparison is a bit justified in some way.
And here my friend it's up to EVERYBODY to decide for their own if the comparison makes sense or not!

Originally Posted by pbanj why not compare it to the christian crusades oh that's right it wouldn't look good for the church.

Come on man, why such a tunnel-look? (I don't know how to call it. ^^)
It was the CATHOLIC church who started that ****!
NOT the baptist church, NOT the penticostals (that's what I am ^^) and not the orthodox church either!

Originally Posted by pbanj Christians really need to go back and read their own fairy tail and see that most of the **** they do in life goes against their fairy tail.

Why do you have to offend religious ppl? Everybody here tried to keep this thread clean and without insults. You had to break it, huh?


€dit: And yeah, I don't like the comparison either! I just thought the footage at the beginning was pretty hard though. To see all that dead bodies...
And to be honest: That story of the soldier who saw that 5 year old kid crawling from under its dead mother...
My eyes really went so damn wet. I barely cry about anything. But that hit me pretty hard...

[pbanj]

not every religion is like that Buddhists don't go around acting like their **** don't stink or like every other religion is wrong.

my point still sticks that people always compare things to the holocaust and seem to forget about all the things religion has done.
as for a backup plan your fairy tail says all i have to do is say sorry and i will be fine.
i have a plan for when i die here it is 1 death is inevitable, 2 its the only thing you are guaranteed in life, 3 when i die i will rot in the ground and go back into the earth.
they're so many religious people in politics it just proves my point they dont care to follow their own book.


oh i was not insulting i speaking the truth they don't read their own fairy tail. if they did follow it then they wouldn't use tvs, computers, watch movies, buy beauty products, i can keep listing things if you would like. but they dont follow it they just pick out the things they like and stick to those. the fairy tail says more about the 7 deadly sins then it does about being gay yet religious people sits there and acts like it is the worst thing in the world.

it is a fairy tail your book is no less a fairy tail then the book the scientologists follow(i dont remember the name). your book speaks lies like any other fictional tail.
almost every religion is based off of man kind greatest fear and that is death they use it as a form of control "if you don't follow our rules you are going to burn when you die".

i have great respect for people who need to believe in something to go day to day they just should keep it to them self's and not try to shove it down every one else throats.
its time for people to open their eyes and realize they dont need a book to tell them how to live they should just be kind to their fellow man and not fear the unknown(death)

dont think i forgot anything

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by ElSalvatore It's pretty hard for me, living in Vienna - Austria, where you see marks of the Holocaust (such as Memorials of Jews at the places they used to live, statues for the War-Veterans, ...), to see that -not only teenagers- in America forget (some even not believe) what Hitler has done to the world.

First off Hitler’s regime is still a piece of contemporary art; them attempting to change the values of the Buddhist symbol; Swastika. I find people to be highly indifferent when taking for granted that the Swastika is the property of Hitler; while what Hitler’s regime was doing plagiarization of the symbol.

Likewise Cannabis has been used as medicine for 4500 years, and has only been illegal for the last 30-40 years, as a highly racist approach.

[BobbyBlunt]

Well I don't agree with the holocaust but I also agree with everything pbanj is saying. If you are offended by people giving their opinions on religion than maybe the line shouldn't have been crossed. Threads like this always cause problems and my opinion would probably piss others off as well so I will sum it up in one video

George Carlin - Religion is bull****. - YouTube

[Peacem8ker]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin It isnt my fault that you are incapable of 1.facing the truth, i do feel really, really sorry for you. 2.I understand that your ignorance is blissfully unaware to facts, so you decide to throw insults, nice... 3.Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against an illegal terrorist sate 4.Finally if you speak to me with disrespect again, i will remove you from this forum, just because you are ignorant, don't bring it to this forum as you will be ripped apart.

1. The same answer could be applied to you if you refuse to understand the Israeli side.

2. If you call such a remark an insult (after "telling" me that my stance is uneducated), then you actually haven't figured out my point of view.
in order to fully understand the past history of the 2 parties...you can not start from a specific time event (it isn't enough! even the most educated historians can agree to that).

3. you see, it's just a matter of your own point of view, so the same can be applied to Israel in order to defend herself.

4. read my 2nd remark...either way, you didn't answer my questions, so all I can say that, you should really learn more about the holocaust before you can even think to apply such a twisted remark towards anyone (and not just Israel).
and mostly, I would respect you, as a mod , if you put aside your political stances on non political website(s) .

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by Peacem8ker I would respect you, as a mod , if you put aside your political stances on non political website(s) .

Isn't that what everyone in this thread is doing including yourself?

[carldenning]

i havent watched the vid the because i feel whats in the past should be in the past , the reason why the world is how we are is because too many people live in the past and take revenge . r world could be a much better life if people live and forget . its officers your not that type of person (cant spell officers right im drunk cos u wouldnt made this thread , we learn by other mistakes because the past is way before we are born or way be we understode . / life is not like how we all want but its so much better than the past / im glad im a live in this year times than before when there was much more hateight ( cant spell < ) than we got now but yes its still worse but now as bad , let past die and look a head and make its better