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Old 12-16-2011   #11
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Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
Its just there for reading sake

It will be on the console or firmware update when you turn on the console, which launched in Japan two hours ago:
http://www.ps3hax.net/2011/12/ps-vit...nse-agreement/
Which means, if you do not accept it, you can do whatever the hell you want to it. If Sony tries to sue, say you didn't accept anything so aren't liable, especially for that hard modifications clause.
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Old 12-16-2011   #12
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Originally Posted by Cheesethief View Post
Which means, if you do not accept it, you can do whatever the hell you want to it.
What if it is there as soon as you turn on the console and the only way to play the console, is by agreeing to it ?
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Old 12-16-2011   #13
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Originally Posted by Rage_of_Inferno View Post
So they are now thinking of implementing "devices" to stop unauthorized use? What do you suppose this means? What kind of device?
Personally I think that when (if?) it does get cracked they will force a 'block' on some that are connected to PSN. Not just block them from their network (which they have every right to) but also actually stop you from being able to use any but the most basic features.

I honestly think they are confident enough to do that now what with all the actual legal cases they have either won or come out smelling of roses in.

They are pushing it as far as they can and hoping noone will mind that much over a few 'hackers' getting dumped on. They already twisted facts enough with the OtherOS case to make anyone who wants Linux etc on their PS3 look bad.
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Old 12-16-2011   #14
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Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
What if it is there as soon as you turn on the console and the only way to play the console, is by agreeing to it ?
True, but you can still mod the hardware without being liable if you do not accept. So then when you release hardware chips and whatnot Sony can go and screw themselves since you never agreed to their terms. Difficult to do without testing.

Still though, Sony has no right over the consoles hardware after it is sold. So you can legally modify it if you want to. That clause is meant to try and screw the customer out of a consumer right... Which should not hold up in a court of law in the US... Should not, but a company with a lot of cash....

If Sony incapacitates your console after you hack it, they will have a lawsuit on their hands they may not be able to win. It is illegal for them to make your console inoperable. Take a look at MS and what they got into after they not only banned, but crippled hacked consoles. They uncrippled the consoles with the next update. They have the right to disallow access to PSN, but they cannot harm your property, or at least should not be able to.
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