[Drunk Vegan]

TL;DR - It's not your console, it's Sony's. By purchasing you are agreeing that you don't own the piece of hardware you paid for, they do.

I don't know why Sony doesn't just start being honest and just RENT their consoles out to users.

[VIRGIN KLM]

I don't remember anyone after 2010/2011 agreeing to Sony's TOS, that's eventually a fight that Sony epicaly lost, nobody (with no exception) cares anymore on agreeing their TOS, best case scenario they'll just say "yeah yeah whatever" and they will skip it...
It's beyond me why they made the effort to pay a person to form a TOS since nobody would care either way and nobody is going to follow it.
If Sony wants people to care they should give them atleast the feeble idea that they care (about them) aswell and since this isn't the case, I don't see people ever caring for Sony, Sony-fanboys included in the case too.

Do you seriously think that anybody is going to (in practice) accept/follow this TOS?
I smell that Sony will understand that nobody cares about their TOS'es and they're going to take some controversial measures again...

[$n!pR]

Haven't read the thread. Here's a direct link to the new firmware:
http://fjp01.psp2.update.playstation...updatelist.xml

[jc_gargma]

Originally Posted by VIRGIN KLM I don't remember anyone after 2010/2011 agreeing to Sony's TOS, that's eventually a fight that Sony epicaly lost, nobody (with no exception) cares anymore on agreeing their TOS, best case scenario they'll just say "yeah yeah whatever" and they will skip it... It's beyond me why they made the effort to pay a person to form a TOS since nobody would care either way and nobody is going to follow it. If Sony wants people to care they should give them atleast the feeble idea that they care (about them) aswell and since this isn't the case, I don't see people ever caring for Sony, Sony-fanboys included in the case too. Do you seriously think that anybody is going to (in practice) accept/follow this TOS? I smell that Sony will understand that nobody cares about their TOS'es and they're going to take some controversial measures again...

Of course only a few read ToS. Who are the target audience for video gaming? What 15 year old is going to spend 20 minutes reading some legal document when they want to bust out guns and shoot stuff? They'll just click past, agreeing to anything you say so the next fix is soon. ToS are designed to prey on this, and they take advantage of it by planting things inside that you would never agree to if you actually read it. And if you later protest, you cannot, because you already signed the contract. You may not care what you agreed to, but a court will, and Sony knows that.
Its not about if people read it, its all about what you can make so alluring they will not care what rights they give away to get it.

[Azztec]

Originally Posted by Cheesethief The more complex the console, the more of a chance that the console may have problems when you buy second hand... And consoles are getting pretty damn complex. Answer: Buy a new in box console from someone.

Years ago I went out to gamestation and bought a PS2 after it had been out a while, come to think of it I still have that very PS2 and it still plays as good as the day I got it, following this the PSP’s I bought my kids were also used as was the PS3.
Can I just say all the above are all still working fine with no issues.
I know of people who bought new ones and have had issues with them so there are no set rules for items going faulty or not.
SONY has never directly profited from me in consoles simply due to them being overly profit driven as opposed to customer driven, when they change I might treat them to a new purchase.