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Old 12-18-2011   #111
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Originally Posted by wtfTroll View Post
what hitler has done in the past is what israel doing in the present.
Israel isn't going as fast. Sure, they have Ghettos where people are staving to death and dieing of easily curable diseases...but no gas chambers or firing squads as far as I know. They are also not invading other countries; they let the US do that for them.
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Old 12-18-2011   #112
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Originally Posted by KillerBug View Post
Israel isn't going as fast. Sure, they have Ghettos where people are staving to death and dieing of easily curable diseases...but no gas chambers or firing squads as far as I know. They are also not invading other countries; they let the US do that for them.
I do respect you however, you have no idea what's going on.
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Old 12-18-2011   #113
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I do respect you however, you have no idea what's going on.
You are probably right...I am limited to what little gets through the media.
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Old 12-18-2011   #114
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I might have mixed this up, but I always thought that everything was forgivable so long as one repented? Like even if you spent your whole life saying that god is a farce and that the holy ghost is an evil spirit, you would be forgiven if you repented the moment before you died? Then the only sin that wouldn't be forgivable would be suicide...as it is murder and you die before you can repent (although even this might be gotten around, like if you took poison and it took a while to do the job, during which time you repented). Then again, I was raised in an "end of the world" cult...
Okay, now I'm going too far: I promised not to post quotes from the Bible here...
But I just don't want to tell anything wrong...

Originally Posted by Bible; Matthew Chapter 12
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
Originally Posted by Bible; Mark Chapter 3
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation[...]
Or the easy way: Wikipedia ^^

And by the way:
I indeed know that you can not proof something through itself. So I can not proof the bible by quoting something out of the Bible, but if I could do it, I would have an answer against those theories from some pages before that said "Maybe God is the Bad one, and just tricking us, ..."

Originally Posted by Bible; Mark Chapter 3
23 And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?

24 And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.

25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

27 No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
But enough of the Bible quotes... I guess I'm the first (andy may remain the only one) to post Bible quotes in this forum...
I tried to keep me away from quoting the Bible here from the beginning... But I failed...
Sorry... :'(

€dit: Source is www.christiananswers.net
Or, to be more precise: Unpardonable Sin /Eternal Sin

Once again: I'm sorry to quote the Bible here...
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Old 12-18-2011   #115
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Originally Posted by KillerBug View Post
Israel isn't going as fast. Sure, they have Ghettos where people are staving to death and dieing of easily curable diseases...but no gas chambers or firing squads as far as I know. They are also not invading other countries; they let the US do that for them.
Oh there are firing squads, the Israeli Soldiers fire bullets at anyone and everyone who is Palestinian.

Regarding "gas", the don't have gas chambers, though the do fire gas rounds at peoples faces almost point blank.

‫مصطÙÙ‰ التميمي 9-12-2011 Mustafa tamimi‬‎ - YouTube

Not forgetting the whit phosphorus bombs which the US supplied them.

Israeli War Crimes & Chemical Weapons (GAZA v. LEBANON) - YouTube

Impact of the white phosphorus on the human body from alleged Israeli attack - YouTube



The world needs to make a stand against this Israeli terrorism.

Palestinian boy vs tank - YouTube

Israeli soldier shoots blindfolded and handcuffed Palestinian man at point blank range [VIDEO] - YouTube
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Old 12-18-2011   #116
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i dont care where anybody is from, race/nation/planet
every single person here belongs to a nation that has commited evil deeds in the past.
people are bastards and their leaders even more so
A very interesting geopolitics teacher I had in college used to tell us (his students): "In the history of nations and peoples, there's no bad guy and no good guy. Everyone's just trying to protect his own interests."

I believe there are some very bad guys (Hitler being one of them), but what this teacher said still sounds very true to me.
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Sheesh that footage scares me, how lucky I am to live in Australia.
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Old 12-18-2011   #118
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Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin View Post
Oh there are firing squads, the Israeli Soldiers fire bullets at anyone and everyone who is Palestinian.

Regarding "gas", the don't have gas chambers, though the do fire gas rounds at peoples faces almost point blank.
I knew things were bad...but not that bad.

As for people taking a stand against Israeli terrorism, they would first have to take a stand against the US terrorists that supply and protect them....and that isn't likely to happen.

Oh, and get your doublespeak correct...this is "shock and awe", terrorism is what the victims do to in self defense. Also, the invading army are "peacekeepers" and the people defending their own land are "insurgents".
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31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
I must have missed that one. Well, at least I know there is no point in me ever attempting to become a christian ever again. Now I have a new piece of ammo against those people who come to my door; I can just say that their own book says I am damned regardless of what I do.
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I must have missed that one. Well, at least I know there is no point in me ever attempting to become a christian ever again. Now I have a new piece of ammo against those people who come to my door; I can just say that their own book says I am damned regardless of what I do.
Lolz...
God bless Jehova's Witnesses... xD
I know that you weren't talking only about them. But here they're the only ones going from door to door...
Even though I love making fun of them a bit when I say I'm not a Jehova's Witness and let them tell me everything they have to tell me, but all of a sudden I start argueing with them and they're suddenly SO SCARED that I know so much about the bible...

€dit: Yeah, forgot to tell ya: Don't forget to have a Bible at your hand and the needed Chapter/pager/whatever... ^^
So you can give em the proov of what it really says. xD
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This is the single most disturbing thread I've stumbled across for quiet some time.... and on a games console scene site? Really? "Off-Topic" I understand (like "bird dances jig" or "frogs all wear waistcoats now, hand gun sales go up" or even serious stuff like "Arab League loosing patience with Iran") but this is more like Overly-simplified-inappropriate-and-factually-questionable-off-topic...

A doctorate thesis would struggle to cover half the relevant statements made here on any of the disjointed ideas and "revelations" by some and i wont add to them.....

One point that is the easiest to debunk though is that Nationalism and the Nazi doctrine are not anything related to or remotely similar to, nor does it equal or even sympathise with Communism... This fact im not discussing any further as, again, it simply cannot be succinctly or accurately covered on this board...

So much misinformation and manipulative propaganda, video and audio edited and cut out of context to suit whomever and further their "cause" or worse, political motivations behind the backers of these individuals is what is so disturbing with this world of free flowing information. It seems irrelevant if its factual or not so long as the information flows..... Knowledge is power for the individual true, however false or incorrect knowledge is power to those who seek to manipulate and mislead for their own benefits...

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