[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by Peacem8ker my 2cents, try to find ways to contribute to the peace process instead of doing the opposite. MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH!

When Zionist Israel stops murdering Palestinian babies, i shall do my best to help the peace process, but that will never happen, because Israel wants to wipe the remainder of Palestine from the face of the earth.

[wtfTroll]

Originally Posted by Peacem8ker Well, I guess you have just exposed your true face. you have proven to me again how civilized and responsible you are towards the forum members, just because they have different opinion than yours. anyway, I had enough of this "civilized" discussion, especially from someone who doesn't know how to follow his own rules and also promoting hatred towards peace. my 2cents, try to find ways to contribute to the peace process instead of doing the opposite. MAY PEACE PREVAIL ON EARTH!

why can't palestinies get a "civilized" discussion with israel without getting bombed after, what peace are you talking about the peace of israel taking control of someone's else land and enforcing them to bend to it.
you're taking someone's else land and you don't want him to defend it is that kind of peace you're talking about? do you even believe what you're saying?

[pepethedon]

It's really sickening how the Palestinian's are painted in this mainstream media. These poor souls barely live in tents, in the desert no less. Their crops are destroyed for no reason. Their childrens schools are bombed and shot at. THEY FIGHT WITH ROCKS. I've seen actual footage of CHILDREN suffering from israel's constant attacks. They're exposed to poisonous gases that send them into seizures, and eat away at their internal organs. This is No joke, no one should be treated this way!
‫تأثر المذيع جمال ريان بصور استشهاد الأطÙ�ال الأربعة‬‎ - YouTube


A lot of people don't know but the jewish talmud allows these "holy" people to do what they want to us "gentiles".
Jewish Talmud Recipe For Pedophilia and Murder - YouTube

[nobleskill]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Sorry, but you seem to have the decent members of this forum confused with American Propaganda Government employees or ZioNazi Israel. None of the video's i have posted are false, if you believe they are, then you have been brain washed by the sh*t your government feeds you, or you are a Zionist. Now this is in the "off topic section", off topic means you can talk about what the hell you want, perhaps it is the truth you fear with this thread remaining here. I am completely non political, but when i see wrong in the world, like the murder of Palestinians by the Terrorist state of Israel, i feel it is my place to speak out.

I meant not to single anyone person or point out (remember the thread started with a video as well as others scattered in between) and honestly love that you have the right to speak out for what you believe in ( keep in mind however you cannot do that in Palestine without serious risk to yourself and family and yet you can in Israel quite freely with little to no chance of violent r reprisals against yourself and/or family
... interesting that...)..... however for every one of the vids showing Israeli individuals acting in such abhorrent disregards for humans in general (we are all in this together remember, at best a grain of sand in in shoreline of the universe) and committing crimes again Palestinians i could reference you to 2 or 3 that are as macabre and disturbing as those posted by yourself... Israel has its back to the wall, its front facing a fire and its sides pushed in by sharp barbs simply from it geography and the fact that several of their neighbours believe, speak and teach all Jews should be killed and wiped from the earth. and lets not forget Hamas, a recognised and very well documents terrorists and murderous enterprise is running that country... 2 wrongs never equal a right and that is simply my point, the issues that are being discussed here are far to complicated to be explored in a forum on a Video games hacking site... The videos are simply a small part of a tit for tat fight that these petulant states have subjected the rest of the world to... Who is more wrong really cannot be defined beyond a reasonable persons doubts.... I do remember suicide bombers killing children and civilians on buses and in market places... these acts deliberate targeting solely civilians is far more heinous than a "innocent" yet heavily armed militant come terrorist come taxi driver(?) being shot or having liberty removed . I am sorry for that child but pick a fight with a tank and you will more than likely loose... the fact that children are often used to plant explosives on heavy armoured assets is beside the point i guess??

I mean, or rather meant and continue to mean, no disrespect to you or anyone.... I believe evil exists and good people need to stand to attention, this "off-topic" just seems a little hard and heavy considering the audience on this site and the fact its waaaaaaay off topic from gaming (something fun and still dominated by people too young (for the most part) to appreciate the literally thousands of years of vile behaviour by the middle east and the religious zealots running them iron fisted...

Neither of the personal attacks you levelled at myself are correct either i might just add. Now Just for the record i read 4 newspapers a day (not all Fairfax or news Ltd either) and blogs and wiki's and have friends in both Palestine and Israel not to mention Pakistan, America, Canada, Iraq, china, Japan and so on and so forth who i talk with on semi a regular basis (one dear friend insists he is Persian and i joke im either Celtic or Bavarian...) I also enjoy forming my own opinions based, what i think is, the best information i have access too..... I am not a Zionist.... I'm not agnostic or an atheist but i don't believe ANY entity that is all knowing and/or all powerful and/or creator of all the universe and all its wonders , if it even exists which as we understand string theory and the six extra dimensions and other insights into the mechanics of life looks less and less likely, would be happy with the way either side is treating their fellow human beings....



I am disappointed at your attitude and aggressive and the rude and incorrect generalisations you have directed at me here for simply pointing out its not as simple as some would like to pretend and over the top political recruiting, the issues and history are not black and white .. Remember Evil doesn't have a race or religion, hate doesn't care for knowledge but loves sensationalist, misleading and out of context images, recordings and writing ect... helps it spread itself around... and i also am entitled to put my off topic thoughts in this off topic thread... Strong as they well have seemed they are formed from more years studying and learning the history than some on this forum, allot id even go far as to say, have even been alive and existed on this earth....

One day, and soon i hope, The other 80% of the world that are not extremist nut job left or right wing psychopathic ... well nut jobs... are going to say enough is enough..... Both sides are full of s#!t for the most part..

Meanwhile, Cocaine is a 10 billion dollar+ product (best guess but certainly a larger number than even that) that along with Meth pays for the wholesale slaughter, rape and torture of entire villages even weddings are not immune from the madness... then the smugglers, wholesalers, retailers, peddlers and users that are usually not getting the happy end to their stories either.... But a rock in the desert that truthfully belongs to NO ONE (dinosaurs where there first sooo....) is what we choose to fight over and spend so much energy on? If they want to continue doing this to themselves well good luck to em. but the people i know on both sides just don't want to see any more dead bodies.... full stop... black, white, and all shades in-between all stink the same as they decompose and end their cycle the exact same way as each other... kinda like how they are all made the same way..... heh back to the original OP topic i believe now.... The world needs less people in it not more so either stop the girls from F%&king around or prepared for abortions to be necessary for our species to survive.... Idiocracy anyone?



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and LOL at the thought that that it all started in 1946 when an international treaty signed by world leaders gave back what once theirs anyway.... go back a couple thousand years and learn about the true origins and owners of that god forsaken desert (yes pun intended, if real it has surely forsaken and people who lob mortars at each other and are dumb enough to throw rocks at tanks.... 1976 (citation needed on exact year but im so aggravated now im walking away from my computer to go sit on the beach and watch the sunset....)) should have been the end to all this bull**** about how hard done by the Palestinians are, it was in the air and ready to turn Egypt and the rest into a sheet of glass..)... go and talk to some real moderates and they are disgusted that a true terrorist state exists now because Hamas was "voted" in... Israel being wiped out will not give peace to the middle east and that is clearer now given the last 18 months of uprising by those who are being purported as anti western... lol... its almost funny the ignorance displayed here except its so dangerous... I have nothing but respect for your contributions to the scene GR but your view points here (extremely biased and political) are ignorant and offensive and truly disheartening...


Oh and still have a 3.55 Phat CHECHJ02 for sale if anyone interested... this is the most sanctimonious and self indulgent scene I've ever born witness to and am looking forward to moving away from these types of sites if im honest.... heh gonna rip out my SNES and reminisce about a more honourable and enjoyable time spent sailing the high seas.. ( yes you could rip the games to floppy and play from them.. Nah why not just fire up the C64 which even gave you the required software (GEOS) to copy anything u wanted... Cassette deck gaming with a cartridge "debug" and 5 n1/4 floppy... keyboard separate?? phhht build the MB and the 16k ram right under that sucker... what's the worst that could happ...... oh snapp spilled my Clear "new" Coke-a-cola on it!!

[KillerBug]

Israel has its back to the wall, its front facing a fire and its sides pushed in by sharp barbs simply from it geography and the fact that several of their neighbours believe, speak and teach all Jews should be killed and wiped from the earth. and lets not forget Hamas, a recognised and very well documents terrorists and murderous enterprise is running that country... 2 wrongs never equal a right and that is simply my point

Hmmm...they get free land taken from Palestine, then they steal more, then they steal more, then they steal more, then they steal more...I wonder why all the surrounding areas don't like them??? As for Hamas, they ARE terrorists...and they only exist because of the conditions created by Israel.

this "off-topic" just seems a little hard and heavy considering the audience on this site and the fact its waaaaaaay off topic from gaming

This site is not about gaming...if you want that, there is the Escapist. This site is about freedom. Sure, it is generally about freedom to run homebrew...but freedom none the less.

Meanwhile, Cocaine is a 10 billion dollar+ product (best guess but certainly a larger number than even that) that along with Meth pays for the wholesale slaughter, rape and torture of entire villages even weddings are not immune from the madness... then the smugglers, wholesalers, retailers, peddlers and users that are usually not getting the happy end to their stories either.... But a rock in the desert that truthfully belongs to NO ONE (dinosaurs where there first sooo....) is what we choose to fight over and spend so much energy on?

Cocaine is only illegal so that the CIA can charge higher prices when they import it to fund their black budget projects. No one dares challenge that...on the rare occasion that someone does challenge them, they "commit suicide" without leaving a note, using a gun they didn't own. The "rocks" that people live on belong to those people...not to dinosaurs, and not to the people who lived there thousands of years ago. Palestine was not part of the Axis...so for the Allied governments to give away Palestinian land against their will is nothing short of theft. For Israel to then expand their borders over and over again is also theft. If Israel had been located in the UK and they kept pushing their borders out like this, the whole world would be dropping bombs on Israel in retaliation, but it is Palestine so no world governments really care. Oh, and remember this...the land belonged to others before the Jewish people showed up, claimed that god had promised them this land, and then started killing every man, woman, and child (even those that surrendered) in order to take the territory.

Israel being wiped out will not give peace to the middle east and that is clearer now given the last 18 months of uprising by those who are being purported as anti western

If someone took your land, stole your oil, installed tyrants into your governments, and then committed terrorist acts on massive scales on civilians to defeat the tyrants that they installed so that they could install new tyrants and start the process over, wouldn't you be against them??? It is no wonder these people are anti-western. The only remarkable part is how peaceful they have been overall. Just look at Egypt...they should have completely overthrown the government, but instead they just got the leader to leave and hand over power to the military that was doing his bidding the whole time! The military didn't even overthrow the government or anything...he handed power to them willingly because they were on the same side.

...I know all these things from what little trickles through the government-controlled media...the true extent of things is actually far worse I am sure.

[wtfTroll]

Originally Posted by nobleskill Israel being wiped out will not give peace to the middle east and that is clearer now given the last 18 months of uprising by those who are being purported as anti western... lol... its almost funny the ignorance displayed here except its so dangerous... I have nothing but respect for your contributions to the scene GR but your view points here (extremely biased and political) are ignorant and offensive and truly disheartening...

i think that @KillerBug pretty much answered everything, but this i had to answer on my own as an arabian and part of the arab spring.

we've been living so long under leaders who claimed that they're patriots, those leaders dared to use the palestine case to move the people's feelings and then betrayed us, we here lived under the Cruelty of gaddafi for 40 years during the 40 years there were attempts to bring gaddafi down and the biggest attempts were by the national salvation front you know who helped gaddafi survive them? america(gov).. we weren't independent in the last 40 years the country was moved from the outside what ever they want happens before gaddafi was a dog for USSR when it fall he started sucking for the west there's no doubt we hate the west, but not for no reason it's their Positions that define, so if the west was on the right side and stopped israel when it kept BOOMING GAZA on a war scale killing hundred of kids,women and men we wouldn't hate them, so don't you dare say anything about the arab spring we have the "right" to get the rest of out rights, we have the right to hate the west for their Positions and most of all we have the right to help palestine

[japsander]

well i guess that all who opposed the nazis were also terrorists for fighting back with all their strength then eh?

i know logic can get twisted sometimes but intentionally being oblivious to the facts is very sad indeed.

palestinians are being wiped out and their land stolen and some people have the nerve to call them the bad guys -.-

[KillerBug]

Originally Posted by japsander well i guess that all who opposed the nazis were also terrorists for fighting back with all their strength then eh? i know logic can get twisted sometimes but intentionally being oblivious to the facts is very sad indeed. palestinians are being wiped out and their land stolen and some people have the nerve to call them the bad guys -.-

According the the Nazis, the French Resistance were terrorists.

[fahadsul3man]

well nothing is gonna change, the war mongering pro zionist media is still going to brain wash people and trick them into believing the wolf hiding in sheeps skin is innocent . Too bad being a blind sheep is nature of most ppl :/

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by nobleskill and LOL at the thought that that it all started in 1946 when an international treaty signed by world leaders gave back what once theirs anyway.... go back a couple thousand years and learn about the true origins and owners of that god forsaken desert (yes pun intended, if real it has surely forsaken and people who lob mortars at each other and are dumb enough to throw rocks at tanks....

Regardless of what you say, before 1946, Palestine used to be a full country, until it was destroyed by what is now Israel

Originally Posted by nobleskill lol... its almost funny the ignorance displayed here except its so dangerous...

Yes indeed, your comments are ignorant and dangerous..

Originally Posted by nobleskill I have nothing but respect for your contributions to the scene GR

Thanks for the compliment, but i haven't contributed anything, i write news, thats it....

Originally Posted by nobleskill but your view points here (extremely biased and political) are ignorant and offensive and truly disheartening...

Of course they are ignorant and offensive to a pro Zionist, after all Zionists are the kings of creating propaganda, my view points are what the world is beginning to see, what the world is starting to stand up against.

The well known saying "The truth hurts" really does stick here.