[TizzyT]

LOL Sony win??? that's a joke... like @japsander has mentioned as long as sites like these and people like kakaroto out there Sony will never win.Sony continues to trail US (the scene), they can only patch the holes that people like kakaroto find besides doing that they patch things and hope its a hit (which clearly doesn't always hit). If you are speaking of development and developers (on the system itself) not progressing then you clearly have not dug deep enough into the scene and only come here to read the front page or the likes, enough searching and you will find there are many developers working on completely different exploits/concepts, I personally follow the progress of 2 groups/people working on the PS3 besides Kakaroto. Go to the PS3devwiki you will find that there is edits/adds recently, maybe as recent as within the week.

Before you think of PS3 developers that already left the scene (software Devs)... I have gotten a chance to ask one or two and what I was told is moving to another console is because development is either better or they just want to give the other consoles some loving. Either way they are only pushing the PS3 aside temporarily.

What does "development is better" mean? Well I personally think this has multiple meanings, this can mean something different for each person, maybe its easier to program for, maybe it has better capabilities, maybe the dev scene is better, or maybe they just straight out like that console better, etc....

Originally Posted by Buggerlugz I tried to convince myself that by August November last year there would be a custom firmware that allowed me to play new games. HOW WRONG WAS I? Face it, Sony has won, and all the supposed dev's that have eli3e skillz where the ps3 is concerned Don't. It's simply beyond all of them.

Not meaning to start anything but who are you to say what a person are or aren't capable of???

PS: Patience really is a virtue.......SO WAIT!!!

[Buggerlugz]

All the good devs who know what they are doing are working on the XBOX360. That is why the 360 is so open to anything now. That is also why hacked 360 owners can play Skyrim for example.

The (so called) jailbroken PS3 on the other hand remains a black box incapable of playing 95% of titles released since last July.

You can argue till you are blue in the face but this is sadly the case.

[japsander]

Originally Posted by Buggerlugz You can argue till you are blue in the face but this is sadly the case.

that is assuming that people "ONLY" care about games

p.s. what the hell are you doing here still? sony won, move on, there are no prison bars keeping you here. **waves**

[Cheesethief]

Originally Posted by Buggerlugz I tried to convince myself that by August November last year there would be a custom firmware that allowed me to play new games. HOW WRONG WAS I? Face it, Sony has won, and all the supposed dev's that have eli3e skillz where the ps3 is concerned Don't. It's simply beyond all of them.

The internet has taught us something called instant gratification. This is a bad thing because now a lot of people expect things to happen instantaneously. Don't get pulled into it.

If you had the console from launch or almost from launch, you should know about the concept of waiting. It took what 4 years to hack the PS3 and now we have had it hacked for one year and people are abandoning ship because no new developments have arose in half a year or so?

[TizzyT]

All the good devs who know what they are doing are working on the XBOX360.

Please don't say what devs here/there are/aren't capable of....

That is why the 360 is so open to anything now. That is also why hacked 360 owners can play Skyrim for example.

While the capability of playing Skyrim on 360 is true, the Xbox360 if you have forgotten has been released almost a year before the PS3 and you might also be forgetting that the security on PS3 is arguably more extreme then the Xbox 360's.

The (so called) jailbroken PS3 on the other hand remains a black box incapable of playing 95% of titles released since last July.

Well if you really think that way then that I guess is all you.... But blaming devs because you can't play those is in my opinion wrong,
Don't bite the hand that is feeding you....or in this case going to feed you.

You can argue till you are blue in the face but this is sadly the case.

Not arguing....just stating my opinions.

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by KillerBug Sometimes technology really does matter. When you get a decent TV and see what DVD really looks like, then suddenly BluRay matters. Of course you might have a dedicated BluRay player...in which case the games would be all that count. Well, try playing a game on a decent gaming PC sometime...I'm not talking about a great gaming PC with multiple video cards, or even one with a top-end card...something with a decent ~$100 video card and a dual core CPU should be enough to convince you of how terrible the PS3/360 graphics really are...and both the 360 and the PS3 make Wii graphics look prehistoric. Of course, maybe you have a crummy old tube TV and don't care about graphics either...in which case, maybe the games would convince you...or rather, the lack of games due to the Wii being so underpowered that the only cross-platform games it gets are things that were on the PS2. As for Nintendo making existing ideas better, I am not sure I follow you. The last time I can think of when they took an existing idea and made it better than what the competition was offering was the Super Scope. It seems to me like their game is mostly to take existing technology, and cut corners until it is perfectly round...then sell it for a lower price to the casual gamer. What is that about the WiiU being the last system you purchase? Are you dieing soon?

I have two flat screens set up side by side. I have a pc with a graphics card as well. I have just about every emulator known to man on it as well. I'm also well aware of the superiority of one machine over the next. That doesn't make the Wii any less fun to play. That doesn't make anybody not prefer Xbox Live over PSN. I think the sales of the Wii and Xbox speak for themselves as far as that goes.

I didn't say Nintendo making ideas better, I said Sony was taking ideas and making ideas better. I said Nintendo was more of an innovator. I'll help you follow me better. What I was referring to was the fact that Sony entered the gaming industry by being hired on by Nintendo to develop a cd-rom machine for them to be their next gen gaming console when the Super Nintendo was released. Instead, Sony left Nintendo with lots of no-how and created the Playstation to compete against the Nintendo. Ever since then Sony has taken just about every feature that every other console has made and just added more technology to it by adding it to a more powerful machine. For instance the rumble feature, or analog controls, psn was was more of a response to xbox live than an innovation as well. They've done the same thing by implementing move in a response to the Wiimote. They even got sued by LG for bluray which they probably stole too. The only thing Sony really brought us that was original was other os which they took away anyways.

Oh, and the reason it might be the last console is because with all the games I have now and the fact that I'm getting back into body building and am going back to school to pick up a new major, I'm just not sure about the time or money I'll have to keep putting into new consoles after this one. The only technological things I have my sights on at the moment is upgrading to a 3D television and the WiiU.

[dsadsadsa]

I'm wondering... What is it that you people are so overjoyed that you are capable of doing on your jailbroken 3.55 that you couldn't do on 3.15?
If games isn't important then the 3.15 to 3.55 gap shouldn't be a factor, and afaik homebrew is avaliable on linux (unless the 3.15 Other OS is HEAVILY restricted - no idea I never tried it), as well as emulators and FTP?
So it's just the PS3 homebrew games? Or am I forgetting something? Showtime could have been ported to play on 3.15 linux as well right? I actually have no clue, I've never examined this.

Also, this thread is moot untill someone defines what "winning the fight" means.

[Buggerlugz]

yes, its just homebrew games, that is exactly what most people are bothered about.

[japsander]

Originally Posted by dsadsadsa I'm wondering... What is it that you people are so overjoyed that you are capable of doing on your jailbroken 3.55 that you couldn't do on 3.15? If games isn't important then the 3.15 to 3.55 gap shouldn't be a factor, and afaik homebrew is avaliable on linux (unless the 3.15 Other OS is HEAVILY restricted - no idea I never tried it), as well as emulators and FTP? So it's just the PS3 homebrew games? Or am I forgetting something? Showtime could have been ported to play on 3.15 linux as well right? I actually have no clue, I've never examined this. Also, this thread is moot untill someone defines what "winning the fight" means.

on 3.15 we could not play newer games and the linux is better on 3.55 than it was on 3.15
winning is impossible outrightly for either side, cant you understand that?
winning is personal. i have what i want out of my ps3. sony do not want me to have it so sony lose, i win.

for sony to win, the scene MUST and i mean MUST be dead, not slowed down, not on hold but DEAD. has it got to that stage? is nobody working on things? are new titles not being released? even the ****ing TB and JB-KING dongles are still going, does sony win that round too?
sony can only slow things down, they cannot stop them

the fact that you are still here proves that sony have not won otherwise you would be gone with no looking back.

for sony to win, sites such as this would be gone too

[dsadsadsa]

You're contradicting yourself a whole lot there mate, you say it's a personal definition, yet you say because I post here Sony have not won, and sites like this would be gone, either it's personal or it's not.

So your answer to my question is more games, but you said 5 posts ago that wasn't important.

Other than that all I see is that Linux is better now, could you elaborate? I've never bothered to install linux since the ps3 is a gaming console. (that doesn't mean I forgive Sony for taking away an advertised feature, mind you)

What's possible on OtherOS++ that isn't on OtherOS ? This must be what you are thinking is a big win yes? (a link to features would be great, I really know nothing about it)