[BobbyBangin]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...usaolp00000009

[hamtah]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Let's say for arguments sake that you're right. Let's say our news programs aren't in a political race right now and doesn't show us statistics or the conflict from each side everyday. Does that make these people wrong or does that make it their fault? If a man straps a bomb in his underwear and blows up a nightclub up in Pakistan, or if Israel fires mortars into the West Bank does that make it my neighbors fault who is none the wiser? Does that mean he wishes that on them? Does that not make the gunmen responsible? I highly doubt American soldiers are responsible for every death that happens over there. And yes, our news sources do point out the number of military suicides. I also highly doubt that because somebody doesn't know means that they're brainwashed. Most people here are disenchanted with the government and don't believe anything that they hear.

Like I said in my first post, this does not regard all Americans. I should I have specified those actually know what is going on, yet they side with those who say "we are the good guys". Have you ever heard of how ignorant people treat each other everyday because of their religion? Or how they mock others? I'm pretty sure you have. These are the people I called brainwashed. They don't have enough of a brain to understand that they shouldn't believe everything the media tells them. Just because the media doesn't show them the other side, doesn't mean they should go have parades of burning down things of other religions.

Not every American is like this, but for the ones that are, they are just simply ignorant. As for the soldiers, I don't blame them for what they do, but the government.

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by hamtah Like I said in my first post, this does not regard all Americans. I should I have specified those actually know what is going on, yet they side with those who say "we are the good guys". Have you ever heard of how ignorant people treat each other everyday because of their religion? Or how they mock others? I'm pretty sure you have. These are the people I called brainwashed. They don't have enough of a brain to understand that they shouldn't believe everything the media tells them. Just because the media doesn't show them the other side, doesn't mean they should go have parades of burning down things of other religions. Not every American is like this, but for the ones that are, they are just simply ignorant. As for the soldiers, I don't blame them for what they do, but the government.

I can't lie, I've heard some pretty stupid things come out of peoples mouths such as racism and religious intolerance. I won't pretend it doesn't exist. But, I think we could both agree that there is an overabundance of ignorance everywhere in the world. Not just America.

[pepethedon]

1)- NO ONE here hates jews, we all have MANY jewish friends. Racism and generalizing is just purely IDIOTIC and doesn't have any place here amongst intelligent individuals, like yourselves.

2)- Zionism, although having to do with israel's nationalism, doesn't speak for ALL JEWS. I have jewish friends that don't know what Zionism is and refute their parents teachings all together because they're just ancient mythology to them.

3)- I'm sorry you hold America very dear in your heart, but the place is living closer to Mars than it is on Earth, let's get real. The ignorance American's posses is due to the arrogance brought on by their "democratic" government. The "home of the free, land of the brave" bull $h!t is OVER. Just as we had our hands in 9/11 we'll DEFINITELY be behind the next one I assure you that much. Even your soldiers will tell you they're SICK of israel and their ethnocentrism. It HAS TO be this way, in order for THE MAIN AGENDA to thrive, everyone must bow to OUR regime and install OUR banks in their country.

4)-Not to mention, did you miss that fact that: THE BILL OF RIGHTS IS GONE!!?? The fact that this country kills it's own men to continue the wars we weren't part of in the first place?

No one loves this country more than I do, but when you're treating the people like your cattle or your "goyim" I won't stand for it, and I'm 100% positive our soldiers wont either. Iran is OBVIOUSLY next in our crosshairs, let's see what "pearl harbor" style false-flag we use THIS TIME! How many lives will it cost??

[BobbyBangin]

Originally Posted by pepethedon No one loves this country more than I do, but when you're treating the people like your cattle or your "goyim" I won't stand for it, and I'm 100% positive our soldiers wont either. Iran is OBVIOUSLY next in our crosshairs, let's see what "pearl harbor" style false-flag we use THIS TIME! How many lives will it cost??

You're right on almost all of it. The only thing you're missing is everybody underestimates the power of the American gov't...they don't need a Pearl Harbor false flag. They didn't need 9/11. 9/11 had nothing to do with Iraq and we went anyways based on the WMD's lies. Get my point?

As for the Bill of Rights, that was wiped out when Bush signed the Patriot Act into existence. But c'mon, did you really think the government could never do whatever they really wanted anyways?

[pepethedon]

I'm extremely happy to see we're all on the same page here, and thank you for being respectful mostly!

"But c'mon, did you really think the government could never do whatever they really wanted anyways?" - BobbyBangin

That FACT scares the **** out of me! ...but I do believe these fools follow some sort of protocol, even though they're reminiscent of the cast from Dr.Strangelove.
I also believe their in the business of keeping America dumb and misinformed, overfed yet malnurished.
Fahadsul3man was trying to point out these obvious tactics at work, and with Wolf Blitzer, no less.
Norman Finkelstein vs Wolf Blitzer: Israel-Palestine - YouTube

[fahadsul3man]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Geez...you can spin anything anyway you way you want I guess. You do know that the same news broadcast showed the guy's entire speech in it's entirety when Ron Paul brought him on stage don't you? They didn't have to do that. And it was better for him to be seen on that stage than behind it. I guess you would have rather watch Fox news which has known racist analysts such as Glenn Beck(no longer) and Bill O'Reilly. You need to understand that each and every news source around the world has their own agenda. You have to gather information on your own and not depend on a television. Also just because these countries are struggling doesn't mean Americans are as stupid as you think they are. We realize there has been conflict in the middle east for 4,000 years or so. Thank you for another America bashing thread. I love reading this on a hacking site.

First this is in off topic section and second american media has made lot of of ppl sheepish and tellin the fact wat the war mongering media in usa doesnt make this america bashing thread
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Originally Posted by Nimation So much hating on Israel... They are also people, aren't they?

palestinians r also ppl arent they ? so r lebanese . And Israel has number 1 record of occupying foreign land and war crimes so yeah i ****ING hate zionist israel more then any other person does

[Nimation]

Originally Posted by fahadsul3man palestinians r also ppl arent they ? so r lebanese . And Israel has number 1 record of occupying foreign land and war crimes so yeah i ****ING hate zionist israel more then any other person does

Well, that's very kind of you but tell me...
Who's not stopping the war?
Who keeps on being a religious fascist, racist and making the world suck more with their stupid ideas?
Who says Jews are less than dirty pigs?
I love your ignorance as well as mine.
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Originally Posted by pepethedon 1)- NO ONE here hates jews, we all have MANY jewish friends. Racism and generalizing is just purely IDIOTIC and doesn't have any place here amongst intelligent individuals, like yourselves. 2)- Zionism, although having to do with israel's nationalism, doesn't speak for ALL JEWS. I have jewish friends that don't know what Zionism is and refute their parents teachings all together because they're just ancient mythology to them. 3)- I'm sorry you hold America very dear in your heart, but the place is living closer to Mars than it is on Earth, let's get real. The ignorance American's posses is due to the arrogance brought on by their "democratic" government. The "home of the free, land of the brave" bull $h!t is OVER. Just as we had our hands in 9/11 we'll DEFINITELY be behind the next one I assure you that much. Even your soldiers will tell you they're SICK of israel and their ethnocentrism. It HAS TO be this way, in order for THE MAIN AGENDA to thrive, everyone must bow to OUR regime and install OUR banks in their country. 4)-Not to mention, did you miss that fact that: THE BILL OF RIGHTS IS GONE!!?? The fact that this country kills it's own men to continue the wars we weren't part of in the first place? No one loves this country more than I do, but when you're treating the people like your cattle or your "goyim" I won't stand for it, and I'm 100% positive our soldiers wont either. Iran is OBVIOUSLY next in our crosshairs, let's see what "pearl harbor" style false-flag we use THIS TIME! How many lives will it cost??

So you really think every crime happening on the earth every day is somehow connected to America/Israel Government...
Hmmm... I'm Persian and naturally must hate both countries but I don't
Here's the thing: I'm so clairvoyant and I'm not kidding at all
I don't know if everything you say is real but If you ask me, when you have power
you are free to do whatever you want with it.
I mean can you stop it? Can you really stop what you hate?
If no then why bothering yourself?

[pepethedon]

Originally Posted by Nimation Well, that's very kind of you but tell me... Who's not stopping the war? Who keeps on being a religious fascist, racist and making the world suck more with their stupid ideas? Who says Jews are less than dirty pigs? I love your ignorance as well as mine. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* So you really think every crime happening on the earth every day is somehow connected to America/Israel Government... Hmmm... I'm Persian and naturally must hate both countries but I don't Here's the thing: I'm so clairvoyant and I'm not kidding at all I don't know if everything you is real but If you ask me, when you have power you are free to do whatever you want with it. I mean can you stop it? Can you really stop what you hate? If no then why bothering yourself?

All I really logically understood was: "Can you really stop what you hate?
If no then why bothering yourself"

The "powers" your appear to posses are irrelevant in the matter, much like Captain foresight, they do NOTHING.

To answer what I took from your essay response, YES. We CAN stop what we dis-like (because I HATE nothing) especially when lives are at stake. It's very easy to turn a cheek towards Palestine and their VERY REAL issues when you're sitting in an air-conditioned ROOM, supplied with all the junk food you can eat.
Palestinians BARELY live in tents, in the desert no less. Their hard-work demolished at any moment, along with their crops and ONLY means for survival.
This is NOT war, this is ETHNIC-CLEANSING. Zionism might as well be called "Israeli Ethnocentrism" ...because their solution is to whipe out ALL of the Palestinians, starting with their children! (Which makes one wonder how "Holy People", these "Chosen People" can be so ignorantly-vile and heart-less)
These poor Palestinians ARE important, if you were in Palestine for 5 seconds that "power" of yours would turn into sheer panic. Imagine taking your child to school, and like clockwork, his school is riddled with constant machine gun fire.
No one deserves this treatment, israel is NO HOLIER than Palestine. Religion must be abolished because it's allowed stupidity to reign over masses for centuries!!!! We're talking MYTHOLOGY here, not science and facts!

[Nimation]

Originally Posted by pepethedon All I really logically understood was: "Can you really stop what you hate? If no then why bothering yourself" The "powers" your appear to posses are irrelevant in the matter, much like Captain foresight, they do NOTHING. To answer what I took from your essay response, YES. We CAN stop what we dis-like (because I HATE nothing) especially when lives are at stake. It's very easy to turn a cheek towards Palestine and their VERY REAL issues when you're sitting in an air-conditioned ROOM, supplied with all the junk food you can eat. Palestinians BARELY live in tents, in the desert no less. Their hard-work demolished at any moment, along with their crops and ONLY means for survival. This is NOT war, this is ETHNIC-CLEANSING. Zionism might as well be called "Israeli Ethnocentrism" ...because their solution is to whipe out ALL of the Palestinians, starting with their children! (Which makes one wonder how "Holy People", these "Chosen People" can be so ignorantly-vile and heart-less) These poor Palestinians ARE important, if you were in Palestine for 5 seconds that "power" of yours would turn into sheer panic. Imagine taking your child to school, and like clockwork, his school is riddled with constant machine gun fire. No one deserves this treatment, israel is NO HOLIER than Palestine. Religion must be abolished because it's allowed stupidity to reign over masses for centuries!!!! We're talking MYTHOLOGY here, not science and facts!

Let's say you are logically right. (And I believe you are mostly right)
Now what do you think the solution is?
Probably it's not going toward a M60 with some stones in hands, is it?
Isn't peace better? A little bit forgive and forget.
Israel tried it many times but I never seen such a thing from Palestine.