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Faris · 01-10-2012

Originally Posted by Nichibotsu

AFAIK there is no application to monitor the temperatures, but if there is, or if you wish to make one, be welcome and feel free to post it here at ps3hax : )

Thanks for your reply, I think I'll stick with learning android development at the moment

.. The reason I'm asking for the application is that I have the same problem as Vampiror, except that the fan ticks of after 20 minutes or so, and it never slows down even if I closed all applications..

Nichibotsu · 01-10-2012

i have a similar issue on my fat console, it's an 80 gb, if i let it be in xmb, in about 20 minutes it will go from silent to the further step, which i believe it's 2? idk about fan steps. Anyway it will go upper, but never below the noisy step. I have no will to take it apart again, it does not bother me as it is, and it usually stays on step 2, after several hours of play it may go upper, but if i quit the game or there is less load on the rsx/cpu the fan slows back to step two. This means i either have bad thermal compound on the dices, or my heatspreaders are slightly warped... Remember with the fan the ps3 got, there is no real way to make it silent... If you want to properly cool your console, you'll have to wither bear with the noise, or stick to fan modding, liquid cooling and stuff

Vampiror Nightstalker · 01-10-2012

Its taken me awhile to work out what AFAIK means! doh!

I am going to order one of those temp sensors.

Where does the sensor go? I am guessing between the cpu and heat sink?

What temps should I be getting from both the cpu and the gpu if it running ok?

I am going to test both.

Thanks for all the advice guys.

I'll post the results once tested.

Nichibotsu · 01-11-2012

idk about temperatures, try asking KillerBug, he's the best out there when it comes to temperatures control... You should place it in contact with the heatspreader, as putting it between the heatspreader and the chip is quite hard and there is a risk of breaking the sensor... just make it be in contact with the copper plate, and if you want to be even more accurate use a small bit of thermal compound to transfer heat better : )

Vampiror Nightstalker · 01-11-2012

Sorry what I meant was on top of the cpu heatspreader under the heat sink?

I don't have copper plates? That I have noticed.

Looking at the pic that pereb27 posted there appears to be a gap in the glue by the nec chips wonder if its wide enough to get the sensor into it?

Ok cool I'll ask Killerbug.

Vampiror Nightstalker · 01-17-2012

I got the sensor and have tested just the cpu at the moment.

I think the thermal paste under the cpu heatspeader has dried out.

I put the sensor on the top of the motherboard where you can see the small chips of the underside of the cpu. With in 30sec to a min the cpu was over 70c and with in 3mins the fan had kicked up to near full speed. I cannot tell what the temp was as the sensor I got only goes upto 70c doh!

Does anyone have a way of getting the heat spreader off the cpu without damage?

Thanks

v8s10 · 01-17-2012

Check this thread, has a link to a video as well. Good luck!

http://forums.cvxgameconsolerepair.c...php?f=9&t=4833

Vampiror Nightstalker · 01-18-2012

Thanks for the link, I have a look into it!

Vampiror Nightstalker · 01-19-2012

Can someone explain the difference of the cpu heatspeader on the eairly 60gb to the 40gb?

Why is the blade method a no no on the 40gb and above? Was the heat spreader flat underneath on the 60 and now it has a lip on it? or is there chips on the cpu that are hidden on the glue?

Thanks

Vampiror Nightstalker · 01-24-2012

Hi just an update.

I ended up following the link by v8s10 but instead of using the same tool as the one in the video in the link I got hold of a feeler gauge like the first poster used.

Worked like a treat I used the 0.15mm blade, squared of the edge as mine are round and then filled it into to give it a sharpe edge. I then bent the blade to have a 90 angle about 5mm from the end.

Went around the edge like in the video and got the cpu heatspeader without damage. Replaced the very dried out thermal compound and BOOM! system back to normal.

Thanks to everyone who helped out!

I would recommened people to have a look at the link and see if its off any use to you as it helped me out.

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01-10-2012	#32
Nichibotsu Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 333 Likes: 6 Liked 44 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i have a similar issue on my fat console, it's an 80 gb, if i let it be in xmb, in about 20 minutes it will go from silent to the further step, which i believe it's 2? idk about fan steps. Anyway it will go upper, but never below the noisy step. I have no will to take it apart again, it does not bother me as it is, and it usually stays on step 2, after several hours of play it may go upper, but if i quit the game or there is less load on the rsx/cpu the fan slows back to step two. This means i either have bad thermal compound on the dices, or my heatspreaders are slightly warped... Remember with the fan the ps3 got, there is no real way to make it silent... If you want to properly cool your console, you'll have to wither bear with the noise, or stick to fan modding, liquid cooling and stuff

01-10-2012	#33
Vampiror Nightstalker Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 108 Likes: 4 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Its taken me awhile to work out what AFAIK means! doh! I am going to order one of those temp sensors. Where does the sensor go? I am guessing between the cpu and heat sink? What temps should I be getting from both the cpu and the gpu if it running ok? I am going to test both. Thanks for all the advice guys. I'll post the results once tested.

01-11-2012	#34
Nichibotsu Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 333 Likes: 6 Liked 44 Times in 24 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	idk about temperatures, try asking KillerBug, he's the best out there when it comes to temperatures control... You should place it in contact with the heatspreader, as putting it between the heatspreader and the chip is quite hard and there is a risk of breaking the sensor... just make it be in contact with the copper plate, and if you want to be even more accurate use a small bit of thermal compound to transfer heat better : )

01-17-2012	#36
Vampiror Nightstalker Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 108 Likes: 4 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I got the sensor and have tested just the cpu at the moment. I think the thermal paste under the cpu heatspeader has dried out. I put the sensor on the top of the motherboard where you can see the small chips of the underside of the cpu. With in 30sec to a min the cpu was over 70c and with in 3mins the fan had kicked up to near full speed. I cannot tell what the temp was as the sensor I got only goes upto 70c doh! Does anyone have a way of getting the heat spreader off the cpu without damage? Thanks

01-17-2012	#37
v8s10 Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 120 Likes: 48 Liked 40 Times in 27 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Check this thread, has a link to a video as well. Good luck! http://forums.cvxgameconsolerepair.c...php?f=9&t=4833

01-18-2012	#38
Vampiror Nightstalker Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 108 Likes: 4 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Thanks for the link, I have a look into it!

01-19-2012	#39
Vampiror Nightstalker Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 108 Likes: 4 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can someone explain the difference of the cpu heatspeader on the eairly 60gb to the 40gb? Why is the blade method a no no on the 40gb and above? Was the heat spreader flat underneath on the 60 and now it has a lip on it? or is there chips on the cpu that are hidden on the glue? Thanks

01-24-2012	#40
Vampiror Nightstalker Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 108 Likes: 4 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hi just an update. I ended up following the link by v8s10 but instead of using the same tool as the one in the video in the link I got hold of a feeler gauge like the first poster used. Worked like a treat I used the 0.15mm blade, squared of the edge as mine are round and then filled it into to give it a sharpe edge. I then bent the blade to have a 90 angle about 5mm from the end. Went around the edge like in the video and got the cpu heatspeader without damage. Replaced the very dried out thermal compound and BOOM! system back to normal. Thanks to everyone who helped out! I would recommened people to have a look at the link and see if its off any use to you as it helped me out.

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