[qwed88]

Too much drama, it's killing progress. How about we quit with the grade school antics and get back to results.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by qwed88 Too much drama, it's killing progress. How about we quit with the grade school antics and get back to results.

i think its too late for that.

[advocatusdiaboli]

True Blue is just the color of their balls after there is a new CFW.

[gigashock]

Drama or no drama, just the first words of Dean say it all. Anyone who is a programmer or familiar with the basics of programming and compilation, know that all of this is valid. It's like trying to make a DirectX 11 developed application, using features specific to DirectX 11, and trying to run it in a Windows Environment that can only support DirectX 9, say like trying to run a Windows7 specific application on WindowsXP. Even simpler, trying to run a Java 1.6 application that uses the NavigableMap class for example, in a Java 1.4 VM...

To say libraries don't matter to the fact of a game being able to be played in previous firmware than for which it was produced for... that's just wrong...

[butnut]

So...
Does TeaM AC1D have the 3.60+ keys?

Are they now decrypting and porting SPRX's?

If not then who gives a rats ass if they "know" how TB works.

Not me, because I understand That without the 3.60+ keys nobody can do anything about TB except bit*h, moan, whine and create drama.

[EmBoLa.be]

TB just want to make some more money by convincing this exploit is fake, so if the cfw comes out, they are not getting any money whatsoever,

[newt]

Hello everyone I'm new here and would like to start off by thanking GregoryRasputin for posting the entire AC1D/TB debacle summed up in a single article so it can be addressed in a single thread. I've been in various "scenes" for a long time and just got a second hand PS3 from a pal of mine that happened to not have been updated so I took the plunge into installing the KMEAW CFW and have had the opportunity to install the new Cobra/Multiman game manager along with Showtime. Both of these apps and really great.

From what I can gather it seems a lot of people in the PS3 "scene" are miffed that they cannot play games requiring a higher firmware version then 3.55 using "free" methods. These people have taken out their frustration on the developers as if they should bend to their wishes and produce a working method. Now and then a no-name developer comes around and claims to have a method to overcome this 3.55 barrier and people get into a fuss and then the no-namer vanishes (and sometimes does after taking donations).

This went on for a while and then a solution came out that you had to pay for aka the TrueBlue Dongle. Whilst some people don't mind buying a new or second/third dongle others were furious and attacked the product from every way they knew how. The latest "slanderous attack" by a "no-name" developer called cfwprofit claims the device is a "scam" due to it's supposed use of copyrighted material and "free scene knowledge" and the haters started hating hard ... again.

After this unverified claim hit the front pages of several inner circle scene sites the TrueBlue Team decided to debunk what they call "rumors" and did so with a press release, which in my opinion lacked substance, but so did AC1D's claims (both are just words, no code, no elfs, no pkgs, no proof). Typing up a theory is simple, but so far nothing other then the TrueBlue can boot 3.56+ games.

So you have the "New" Team AC1D with some hot air, TrueBlue with a professional press release (well, as professionally as you can get in the scenes) and then there's DeanK. DeanK is the author of what is most likely the most commonly used homebrew application for the PS3 - MultiMan. He steps in with his explanation of why cfwprofit's "theory" is full of holes with a semi-technical forum post containing substance. Of course DeanK isn't trying to help people pirate games, but just clarified why AC1D's theory is only a theory (and a bad one at that).

I think I got it all straight, but excuse any mistakes due to fact I've only had my PS3 for a couple of weeks. Some things I don't understand that I think are important are ...

When the PS3 was originally "hacked" the only way to run such hack was to purchase a Dongle, soon after this the Dongle code was cracked and ported to blank dongles/devices (which you had to buy if you didn't own one). Finally, some people ported the "jailbreak" to common devices that a lot of people own or could easily obtain from an electronics department/store. Was there public outcry over the fact you had to buy something? Not really ... Look at the XBOX scene - you HAVE to purchase something to get your pirated discs running and everyone seems content over there.

No-names ... they are a constant in every scene and should only be trusted when they produce something that you yourself can test then if you're feeling generous you can donate to them. I don't understand why people would donate to no-name's and that is okay, but spending a little money on a dongle that does something they can't is considered evil. We should all know that videos can't be trusted as what you're seeing on the telly might not even be coming from the PS3.

Hmmm .... what else. Oh, the most recent trend on some sites is bash the TrueBlue for supposedly using copyrighted code and "free scene knowledge". 99.9% of CFW users boot pirated games and besides we all know that just by installing the CFW you're breaking laws. So why is it okay to have a collection of illegally copied games and/or flash your PS3 with an illegal firmware, but it's not okay for TrueBlue to use some copyrighted code? Also, if the knowledge was "free" it would be in the hands of all developers. The knowledge aka method isn't free as the TrueBlue Team are capitalising on the fact their device is the only one to boot 3.56+ games.

That's about it, like I said I've only been around for a little bit so I hope I got it all right. I also don't work for TrueBlue or have their Dongle nor plan on purchasing one as I have no dongles. I'm happy enough to be able to watch MKV without conversion and using Linux that not being able to play a couple of games that might interest me doesn't bother me.

Cheers!

[butnut]

Originally Posted by newt text

Nice post! I would like to point out that cfwprophet and TeaM AC1D are not "no name" they have done work on the ps3 in the past. Still that was a good post.

[big_russ]

how come this at newt got banned after one post?.
can some one tell us who it was?.

[Thelostdeathknight]

Sorry @newt you are not new here you are @thepitt so enjoy the vacation you were given, also i know you are @SonyXvoX

ban evasion will not be tolerated, kthx have a nice vacation