[japsander]

Originally Posted by senaxx I see what you mean, but it's not that kind of info that really is usefull to the enduser. It are things from True Blue that are told me in trust, It's not that when I disclose this information, the end-user will profit from it. Things like founder, people involved and things like that If it was something like how to hack the the dongle, or some kind of way to hack it i'm the first one to post about it. To be clear for once and for all, i'm not PRO TB, i'm just not against it.

knowing the people behind/involved is to know where we have been misdirected from. who to trust and who not to trust.

if you had not mentioned on more than one occasion that you "know inside things" but wont tell @Senaxx i wouldnt have thought any less of you.

you dont even use your knowledge to hint at when someone is being misdirected or on the right track

now please @Senaxx do me one last favour before you go. permanently ban me. im serious. do it. this scene is rotten to the core and i want no further part in it

[H3avyRa1n]

Originally Posted by LoboGuara Why is so important know who is the people behind TB? A "shame list" will not make the scene grow or advance faster. Better is just ignore these drm dildos. Is not a nice thing to see this internal war between staff members.

not a "shame list" but instead an "avoid list" so you can know who (not) to trust and be aware of whom is providing you misinformation and misleading.

@japsander , please do and enlighten us once and for all. oh and by the way stay around because as GR you're more than welcome here.

[TitaniumL]

What's the point in banning you (japsander)? If you leave then the others do win. You do realize that right? If you leave, who do we have to stand up against them? You guys know them more than we, the average member, do. That's if we even know them anyway.

We need all yous in the know. You guys should stay and fight to the end.

[TitaniumL]

How many WTFTrolls do we have here?

[agmarco1967]

Althought this thread is for the "Big Boys" on this site I want to ask where this is going?
Most of the "normal" members of this site are here also because of the input from you guys.
I think you guys are better in being special members because of the real involvement you have in the PS3 scene and not just (with all respect) moderating a forum.
So don't leave and keep this forum a live. It must be frustrating how it goes and it takes so long before we have real big news again but don't forget how this al started and where we are now. In a few months we will be laughing about this (I'am sure).
The scene is not rotten but just some people in it. F**K them.....

[hellsing9]

If 3 mods which i know actually greg, japsander, lostdarknight (not much) and if i can recall some months ago or last year = Wolfie.
Given up their mod status, If i apply some logic here...

1) They knew about this *drama* and never said a word about it.
2) They knew about the real thing or parts of it and even in mod status they not standed for the users or the community itself to tell the REAL reason about giving up their mod status.

So seriously i don't know which one to believe and it's getting more and more confusing.
In order to tell the truth and not compromise they own morals they step down from their status and started talking the *truth*.
Being a mod i know it's a not paid job, but it's job afterall when you are *Watching* threads or closing them to avoid problems or even if a thread is full of **** you delete or you ban someone for being harrased by another. It's the mod's function. It's *watching* that everything is ok and running.
I respect/respected the rules from site and from mods that are not longer have the status. Because i have respect for the community itself.

FYI the average user here is NOT stupid (even a one registered one month ago), they know so long that **** going down. Frontpaged news reflected that in some kind of way.
Im almost a year beeing here and i see mods parting ways, the *true blue gate*, then the *Jb-king* smoke screen...
So it's cool to you to step down from your mod stat, but in some point doing that for me is a selfish act.
If you can't hard delete a thread or something, report it. Expose what you seeing. INFORM the community and THEN step down.

My tought about this, that you don't have to wait until explode of rage to step down from something and if you do so. Clarify your situation and not close the case with = *Im no longer mod because Hax is full of ***** or something like that.
If HAX really was/is full of **** why not expose the reality you knowed right then being a mod!

Im against True blue but like i said, im not taking sides. I have my own opinion about that dongle and Jb king, besides that it's (almost) the same FACT that produced in some scale the downfall of *p$x-scene* (i was on that forum too).
If this aptitude with certain people keep this way, hax eventually will end like p$x.

Too all who are not longer mods, my respect.

P.s: If true means that more than 4 mods declined their own status for something really bad happening, lead me to think that exists a poor/bad connection or communication with the higher ups. This INSIDE threads or problems have to being resolved in private and between the ones that knows the *true* behind all of this instead of exposing for everyone to read....

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by ЩtfTroll Why you still talk bout it

Chris9191, seriously, you have nothing better to do since your site got raped and you lost all your piracy links, its funny that you have so much time on your hands, that you have to be this pathetic and immature.

Originally Posted by hellsing9 If 3 mods wich i know actually @greg @japsander @lost darknight (not much) and if i can recall some months ago or even last year @Wolfie . Given up their mod status, If i apply some logic here... 1) They knew about this *drama* and never said a word about it. 2) They knew about the real thing or parts of it and even in mod status they not standed for the users or the community itself to tell the REAL reason about giving up their mod status.

You seriously think that @japsander , TLDK or i wouldn't have said anything, then you are clueless and don't know us at all, regarding @Wolfie708 , i think he stepped down because of me.

So try using some logic, instead of what you think logic is.....

[lernatix]

What did I miss? No offense anyone, especially Greg/Pockets but I'm kinda glad my PS3 died. I miss this place, well, what it used to be (to me) and the people. Hell I even still try to post occasionally. But this scene is seriously ****ed up.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by ЩtfTroll Listen i am the WTFTROLL Original, don't like it sue me You think you know everything that is why your are in this situation Maybe you should look closer to home spaghetti dick

Ahh its a same you are a coward.

[japsander]

beleive it or not im sick of the drama and fighting.
as long as i have posting rights i cant help but stick up for what i beleive in.
remove those rights and i can get on with other, more important things like skyrim and family.

nobody should be so pissed at something so trivial. i dont care about the dongle, i dont care about the cost, i care about the scene values and progression.
they have been replaced my DRM, the very thing that the scene setout to break has now taken it over and people dont care

@hellsing9 you will have seen many of us trying to stand up against TB for months.
i stepped down yesterday because of a conversation i had yesterday. the details of which i have posted here in this thread.