[pereb27]

Originally Posted by unas2 Hi folks!! STOP crying about TB, Buy another PS3 or a E3 flasher and be happy!!! P.S.: The crying from all of you makes me sick!!

Fixed for you :D

[big_russ]

Originally Posted by unas2 Hi folks!! STOP crying about TB, Buy one and be happy!!! P.S.: The crying from all of you makes me sick!!

who the hell do you think you are if i wanted to pay for a bluestick play thing id go to ann summers not some crappy chinese online store.

[japsander]

And now it seems a "lover" has started the drama -.-

[OoZic]

True Blue only excists because of the hard and great work of graf_chokolo, without the HV bible TB wouldn't be possible.

Graf_chokolo believes in freedom of information and is willing (or already is) to go to jail for us and is faced with a million euro claim for giving us (the scene) the information we needed. $ony really showed their Nazi face with raids and lawsuits and other scary tactics.

Using graf_chokolo his great and free HV bible to make big profits is just not done. It is a betrayal to everything graf_chokolo stands for and I really hate TB for doing that. Just let graf_chokolo rot away in big trouble while making big profits.... how lame is that and TB buyers support this stealing (DRM'ing) from free information provided by the greatest dev we ever had on the scene.

And i am sure it is possible to make a TB CFW with OtherOS++ support but TB is as lame (or even more) as $ony and doesn't give that option because they are as cowardly as $ony, scared we use Linux to crack their device.

If you like and respect what graf_chokolo did for the scene, you should not buy that TB buttplug !!!

Graf, if you read this, please let us know how you are doing and what is going on atm with you. We (the real Open Source lovers) want to support you but without knowing what is going on, we are left in the dark... much from the real sceners

[japsander]

Originally Posted by <GEEK> Is it odd that I see a strong resemblance between Madonna and... Geohot, lmao? I always knew there was something odd about that kid.

OMG OMG OMG........vogue

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by big_russ who the hell do you think you are if i wanted to pay for a bluestick play thing id go to ann summers not some crappy chinese online store.

Well personally I would rather see him suggesting people buy one than the other way around where people who have bought one are called all sorts of sh1t.

This would never have gotten this far or stupid if the users, (NOT the makers) had not been insulted and flamed so much from the start.

Again I will say it............... Hate TB themselves, but stop acting superior to the people who have bought it. It IS a solution to playing a lot of games they would not be able to without it, so either accept that or stay quiet as all insulting the USERS of it does is p1ss people off.

This whole TB bollocks has turned into user hating and I see no positive actions, or even comments, against TB themselves to try and stop it.

If you hate TB that much, start a petition to Sony themselves. Include names and addresses of all the people behind it or who openly support it's sale (a well known PS3 'scene' site comes to mind), and remember, the hardware is not illegal, but the CFW's that support TB are (just as all CFW are illegal, at the moment allowing for grey areas).

F*ck, I'll even sign your petition if you start one, and use my real details as shock horror, I actually don't like TB myself, I just think bashing the ones who have bought it is ridiculous.

This whole 'scene' needs to grow up.
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Originally Posted by japsander And now it seems a "lover" has started the drama -.-

Be realistic mate, what do you expect when you have a thread titled as this is?

From the posts I have read the majority of TB users agree it's a sh1t thing that TB have done, but at the end of the day they want to play the new games and having had people jump on them from day one and calling them things that you would not call your worst enemy of course the supporters of it are going to comment and talk bollocks.

The TB haters (as a group) brought this whole 'war' about by hating the users more than TB themselves, and that is pathetic.

[Mackdanny]

I hate the stick, I hate the company, I hate the greed, I hate the DRM, and lots more. But let me reiterate a point. I don't hate the users. To each his own and if you want to use it, no one can force you otherwise. While I personally wouldn't and advise you stay as far away as possible from true blue, and other dongles I understand some people just won't. And in the end that's fine. I don't hate the concept either, I mean, being as we're stuck on 3.55 until further notice there's not much we can do to play new games. Sure the homebrew continues to evolve; we still get updated MM, (don't derail my post into some cobra-MM argument, I KNOW!) we still get rebug, we still get new an updated homebrew games, frankly when you look at it the modding community is moving at a decent pace. The ONLY snag in the road is of course 3.56+ games. Uncharted 3, BF3 have eboot fixes. But last I heard, skyrim doesn't. (last time I personally checked that is) True Blue enables gamers to continue playing new titles for those who don't want a new ps3 (assuming you can do without online) The makers of True blue should be regarded as heroes, and to some I suppose they are. Yet to me, a good bunch of the community and honest devs out there who would gladly do TB's dirty work for not a penny, these guys are criminals, cowards, liars and scum. Why? Should be clear by now that a modding community worth paying for is a community worth skipping, and people have a right to believe these guys are cancer while guys like kakaroto, Graf among others try to keep the foundation alive for 3.56+. Please don't make a war out of a damned device, if you don't like it, I hear you brother, and if you do, well, hopefully your heart's in the right place.

[big_russ]

[QUOTE=Wolfie708;324711]Well personally I would rather see him suggesting people buy one than the other way around where people who have bought one are called all sorts of sh1t.

This would never have gotten this far or stupid if the users, (NOT the makers) had not been insulted and flamed so much from the start.

Again I will say it............... Hate TB themselves, but stop acting superior to the people who have bought it. It IS a solution to playing a lot of games they would not be able to without it, so either accept that or stay quiet as all insulting the USERS of it does is p1ss people off.

This whole TB bollocks has turned into user hating and I see no positive actions, or even comments, against TB themselves to try and stop it.

If you hate TB that much, start a petition to Sony themselves. Include names and addresses of all the people behind it or who openly support it's sale (a well known PS3 'scene' site comes to mind), and remember, the hardware is not illegal, but the CFW's that support TB are (just as all CFW are illegal, at the moment allowing for grey areas).

F*ck, I'll even sign your petition if you start one, and use my real details as shock horror, I actually don't like TB myself, I just think bashing the ones who have bought it is ridiculous.

This whole 'scene' needs to grow up.

well im not going to start no petition it's never gotten you any place.
but i will stop with all this childish nonsense iv got thing's i need to do.
like go and get me ff13x2.

[japsander]

@Wolfie the title has nothing to do with targetting the "users"
As you said, hate TB themselves and the threads opening post isn't even a hate one and in no way is it insulting to any owners of the device.

It is a well presented "peaceful" explanation

As I said, both sides are to blame. If you are personally insulted, fair enough, if not, let it be. members should not be insulted for their principles.

And you can't accuse ALL of us of personally insulting the owners.

[just_idle]

all new apps and releases should have a dongle detector and some destruction code to destroy 'em.