[sandungas]

Just found an interesting pastie ---> http://pastie.org/pastes/1341009/text
At first sight i noticed the path "/dev_bdv/PS3_GAME/INSDIR/PARAM.SFO" and the CATEGORY's (from X0 to X7 at the bottom)

[deroad]

wow!
where you found it?

[Lady Anne Blunt]

Thanks for the infos.,
About Torne, unfortunalty i don t have the money for it but i was thinking about it with region_deny and such things.
I saw special pack ps3+torne and probably still on fews shops (probably not so well sell and can be possible good candidats for the not so impossible >3.55 news ps3 inside the box)
Never saw it as second hand products but if so, i ll consider the option to buy it for fews checks.

Thanks you for the X0 an X4 comments, but as i said it ll be pretty hard to have it from examples since they don t appear under this name category (but as hg).
For X0, it look like a sub category already prepare for the overwrite of move and 3d screeen)
X4 as mention when generated will active one unknown flag (with others flags as X0)

I suspect DEX console will have X2 or others similars category such as X0 and X4

Less trivial, the question about official tools or not...is the others sources can be also or even more affected (even own xmb files), edited or limited (without mentionning my lack of knowledge) but i understand your idea.

Also thanks you Deroad for your syscall article.

[sandungas]

Originally Posted by deroad wow! where you found it?

By looking in google for the TITLE_ID of torne (BCJB95006)
The link comes from jaicrab blog, he wrote a message with some parts of the firmware decrypted

Btw, this web has a search engine to look for patches (torne has 4 patches) http://ps3.brewology.com/psn/updater.php

Torne has an undocumented flag in the program itself (added in patch 3.52)... and another one in the disc (marked as a "install disc")

The changelog of torne v3.52 is here
http://www.jp.playstation.com/info/r...orne_v352.html
Translated by google:
http://translate.google.com/translat...2.html&act=url

The translation is very confusing, if somebody can help with japanese, please take a look at this... there is an important feature added in patch 3.52 that seems to be related with online features or ps vita

Edit:
Btw... this patch was released 20 january 2012... is newer than PS3 firmware 4.01

[Lady Anne Blunt]

About Torne update Japanese page and the matter about technical aspect is about:
fix for fews cables channels (catv) and ps vita image (if i understand right your previous post they added flag, so can be like a news flag for psvita such psp remote play in MPEG4 AVC/AAC)

They also mention than this remote play when using it in hd can be only use as private network.

ps3 fw 4.00+, ps vita fw 1.50+.

Also for previous update, Torne probably have one related to the general switch for digital from analog in July 2011 (but still most of the channels works in analog tv) but can t really get how it will appear on flags

[sandungas]

updated the wiki with this 2 new ATTRIBUTE flags
The one for vita is not confirmed so i added it with an interrogation mark, but meh... i bet its a new video mode like you said because severall reasons, the first one is the coincidence between firmwares releases dates and vita release, the second one is torne had only 2 flags in previous versions (2 PSP remote play modes)... and patch 3.52 adds another flag... so seems obvious that is related with vita, and probably is another video mode

The question is... what video formats are supported by vita that was not present in PSP ?... because the PS3 needs a "codec" for this new format (or maybe is the same codec but with different resolution because the vita screen is bigger ) ?

Originally Posted by Lady Anne Blunt About Category and the "2d" related to ps2, i guess there are also about ps1 and psp and will try to localize them and name them.

2D is verifyed, dont worry, it was in this .PKG you pointed
This patch added the "feature" to install files from the PS2 DVD to the PS3 HDD (seems to be used only by one or two of the last final fantasy games released in PS2)

Can be considered a "patch" and it works like a patch, in the same way it can be uninstalled like a patch.
Maybe there are the same flags (not used yet) for the other emulators ?

The interesting thing i see... we can replace emulator files creating this kind of patches ???
If this works, is an easy way to replace the emulator (maybe some day a modifyed emulator will be released like the ones cobra uses that are patched to load "raw" .iso's)

[advocatusdiaboli]

Originally Posted by deroad wow! where you found it?

The source is mentioned in the pastie. http://jaicrab.blogspot.com

[Lady Anne Blunt]

I was trying to remenber if in previous fw we have a boot logo (possible flag not use anymore )as remove boot logo when launching the game and if so, which fw remove it.

[sandungas]

Originally Posted by Lady Anne Blunt I was trying to remenber if in previous fw we have a boot logo (possible flag not use anymore )as remove boot logo when launching the game and if so, which fw remove it.

They cant remove old flags, because the SFO format needs to keep compatibility with the old programs or games
So if an old game used a "rare" flag, they cant "recicle" this flag and reuse it for another function, this game needs it
The only thing they can do is to add new more flags, and when the whole 32 flags of ATTRIBUTE are used they will change the "File_version" of the SFO (from 1.1 we are using to 1.2) and increase the size of ATTRIBUTE to 64 bits
Edit: or they will add ATTRIBUTE2 like PSvita

*I bet this will happen in few time because future peripherals

About this "hide boot logo" flag... do you think is the image with "sparks" that appeared between you press X ----> (logo) ----> and the game boots ?
If is this image... at this point is important to document it because there are some guys in a friend forum trying to modify this animation, even TizzyT (that has released "Playstation Color Logo Creator v2" some days ago) has commented that is interested to see if his program can include some functions to modify this animation

But for this to work first we need to make the logo appear (probably with this flag), because i think the image is in every game (the PS3LOGO.DAT inside PS3_GAME is a .PNG with the extension renamed)


After thinking in it... you said the flag "hides" the "boot logo" but actually the firmware hides it always
So... it can be the opposite ?
Lets imagine that the old firmwares by default displays the boot logo (and the flag disables it)
Later on... sony decided that the firmware by default hides the boot logo... and the flag does the opposite (activates it)
Its speculation, if you can give more info i can look better at it

[Lady Anne Blunt]

Yes, the idea as you described at the end, "logo boot disable" (sorry for my English but it was what i though also). And it don t need to be remove or activate, just no use anymore since since newest fw ll do that ( if previously old fw showed we are lucky, otherwise it ll even more paint than simply downgrade to check this possible attribut)
I was trying to accros olds videos in youtube showing that logo before going to downgrade (but will wait for your idea)

Here (genelib.dll):

Click here to see full text

528896 DISC.SFO
528904 ....PARA
528912 M.PFD...
528920 SND.PIC.
528928 ICON....
528936 PARAM...
528944 PKG.%sCo
528952 pying pr
528960 ohibited
528968 ....%sTh
528976 e patch
528984 overwrit
528992 es 3D wa
529000 rning at
529008 tribute.
529016 ........
529024 %sThe pa
529032 tch over
529040 writes P
529048 S Move C
529056 alibrati
529064 on Notif
529072 ication
529080 attribut
529088 e...%sTh
529096 e patch
529104 overwrit
529112 es PlayS
529120 tation??
529128 Move att
529136 ribute..
529144 %sThe pa
529152 tch over
529160 writes X
529168 MB??? (i
529176 n game)
529184 attribut
529192 e.......
529200 %sThe pa
529208 tch over
529216 writes R
529224 esolutio
529232 n/Sound
529240 format/P
529248 SP??? re
529256 mote pla
529264 y attrib
529272 ute.....
529280 %sLogo d
529288 isabled.
529296 ....%sWa
529304 rning di
529312 splay fo
529320 r 3D is
529328 enabled.
529336 ....%sCa
529344 libratio
529352 n notifi
529360 cation f
529368 or PS Mo
529376 ve is en
529384 abled...
529392 %sWarnin
529400 g displa
529408 y for PS
529416 Move is
529424 disable
529432 d...%sWa
529440 rning di
529448 splay fo
529456 r PS Mov
529464 e is ena
529472 bled. (M
529480 otion%s%
529488 s)../Nav
529496 i.../Eye
529504 ....%sPl
529512 ayStatio
529520 n??Move
529528 is suppo
529536 rted....
529544 %sGame p
529552 urchase
529560 function
529568 is supp
529576 orted...
529584 %sSystem
529592 Voice C
529600 hat is N
529608 OT suppo
529616 rted....
529624 %sPSP???
529632 exporti
529640 ng is su
529648 pported.
529656 ....%sBG
529664 M with X
529672 MB??? (i
529680 n game)
529688 is suppo
529696 rted....
529704 %sXMB???
529712 (in gam
529720 e) is NO
529728 T suppor
529736 ted.....
529744 %sXMB???
529752 (in gam
529760 e) is FO
529768 RCED to
529776 be enabl
529784 ed..%sPS
529792 P??? rem
529800 ote play
529808 is supp
529816 orted...
529824 %sATTRIB
529832 UTE = 0x

There are more things in this file like this VOICE hat we can see in that pastie, or even about unknown category, PARAM.HIS, PARAM.HIP (i didn t see anything about this on wiki, but i can provide example as starting)