[BobbyBlunt]

First off let me say thanks to @GregoryRasputin for inspiring the following post.
http://t.co/HrN0AurR

I have sat back in the shadows and have not said how I have felt about this "scene" for a very long time. I have participated, followed, moderated, sometimes worshiped >.> (ssshhh don't tell anyone ) this so called "scene." What is a "scene?" We all gather and collect knowledge from each other. If it were not for the console "scene" and also for the simple fact of making your electronics better, then I would have never went back to school for electronics, I would have never even pursued a PC as anything other than a basic knowledge user, and I most certainly would not be here as a moderator on one of the best ps3 sites on the net if it were not for this community.

For Greg's first point let us mention piracy, yes you guys can bash me later. Have I pirated, yes. Am I afraid to admit it, no. Do I hate most of you that join forums and IRC servers for nothing more than warez, yes. The difference between most of the pirates and myself (that also pirates things from time to time) is that you do not appreciate homebrew (home user created code.) If it were not for this user generated content you would not have any hacks/jailbreak. These users using the SDK keep it to yourself, but at the same time teach other people wanting to help how to use it . Piracy will happen and it does not matter which side you are on. FailOverFlow knew piracy was inevitable, but still published their work for free, which leads me into my second point, and it also ties in with GregoryRasputins next point, DRM dongles .

DRM dongles are a disease, hated by most of this community, because of what they are. No individual that I speak with often is a thief. Thieves are hated. Now yes as mentioned above, homebrew "scene" devs have used Sony's stolen SDK to do work, but never at the extent of charging homebrew and MFW users money for their discoveries. I have spoken to many homebrew devs (even some that some of you think are in this "conpiracy theory" of lies and thievery) and they will help you to gain the knowledge of things they know, but you do not at the time. Knowledge should not be charged for. If you know something, and you claim you are part of the scene, then help your fellow man. If, and only if, there is not a single person left that appreciates knowledge, then profit of your knowledge, but you will not run into that situation in the "hacking scene." You people profiting from knowledge that you acquired from using something stolen is sickening. Share what you know and make the spread of knowledge as free as the freedom of speech.

On to Greg's third point, the devs.
The dev's should take a good look at the paragraph above. It does take a lot to code. It does take a lot to make a software or code that you guys feel as though nobody appreciates for free. I have developed very little software, (basic C++, and VB) but I have worked with assembly and machine language. I work more with electronics than computers. As I said above, most people help others with home based electronics because it is about freedom. You know piracy is always a result, but for some reason you guys want to ***** about it now. Math, (yes I will call one person out in particular) you knew piracy would always be part of the PSP scene but did you ever hesitate with your PSP stuff, NO!!! So why the change of heart now? If you devs want to stop because of piracy, then why did you get involved in the beginning. Hacks and freedom will always open the door to piracy. The devs that work with the official SDK and ***** about piracy are hypocrites. Don't play the "fear from Sony" card, because you could always hide behind a poxy, upload, and be happy with the fact you helped the next guy, even if he doesn't know your name.

Now let us move on to the 360 scene.
Wow where do I start? There are 2 different types of hacks for the 360 user. There is the DVD firmware hack, which allows piracy and the network together, and there is also the Jtag/RGH community. Even with the 360 community split in half, they respect each other. They respect each other enough that there are dual nand (boot) setups that are not hard to obtain (if you are not afraid of the knowledge and experience.) Everyone should understand GregoryRasputin's (and my own) point. The 360 is progress, and the ps3 scene is a money maker full of *******s that are worse than the pirates of this "scene."

Now with all the points given, how can you help improve the scene? Every little bit counts. You could always ask a dev for help in one of the many IRC channels. If the wrath of Sony really does scare these devs, then passing their knowledge on so that another can release work that a "dev" helped with shouldn't be an issue since that so called "dev's) name is the clear.

After seeing both "scenes" the PS3 scene is sickening. It is no longer about freedom, it is about either acting like a ***** or charging for work that is made with stolen software, then calling someone else a pirate. Let us all hope Greg is correct and more scees act like the 360 scene in the future, or everyone will have to rely on their own knowledge to obtain freedom with their electronics. Where would all you Iphone/android fanboys be without the community?

I was a member of afterdawn.com. My name there was ooZEROoo. GregoryRasputin suggested I come here years ago to help with a particualr problem and I have been here since. I love this scene, and I also feel the same way as GregoryRasputin does.

[fahadsul3man]

really nicely put and them DRM dongles just sickens me

[LoboGuara]

I agree with most of the points, especially the drm dongles being a desease to the scene (well, the purchasers feed the market and are responsables too).

But the 360 scene doesnt work in the same way, I dont know if a dongle solution (drm or not) was/is viable on this console (i think they cannot sell a dvdrom firmware or a glitcher on a usb dongle etc). But im not a dev, dont know nothing about any programming language (zx spectrum basic counts?) and maybe im just talking nonsense.

There is a lot of points to discuss comparing the ps3 scene with the WII or 360 scene (ie: EMO devs who gets hurted by kids and running from the scene , notepad wizards with a lot of bull****, a lot of fakes and rumors messing with the people patience...and the frustration can cause a lot of problems and agressive behavior from the sceners and piss off serious devs).
But my english too bad for that and im a little drunk now

When (i have faith) the free solution to play 3.6 games appear, the ps3 scene will return to the golden days (just like the 1st half of 2011) and we will se a lot of greedy devs crying - and using their dongles as a dildo.

Thank you, that was a nice read. And sorry about my poor english.

[BobbyBlunt]

I would have made a slight edit to some things, but everyone gets the general idea. Devs that are scared can at least teach, and never blame piracy as the reason that you can create homebrew and not release it. There is always a means to get your creative talent out. Let us look at Richard Stallman. He was a pioneer.

Him and his free softwate movement and gnu along with with Linus and the LINUX KERNEL!!! made an OS that was based off UNIX for free. Look at how Linus and the open source/free software foundation has moved. That community grew from user generated content and code, and contribution. We do not get anywhere without working together. We should never wrk against each other. Considering most of what is known is based off of stolen Sony code the most that devs could do is show open source code and give a path in the right direction as far as legal boundries go. THE ****ING CODE OST OF YOU HAVE WRITTEN CAN BE OPENED SOURCED. Math you claim that you will never release assembly?!?!?!? I know people that own me in software type stuff, but I am more of a nuts and bolts type of guy I know assembly, but I cant at least look at code for my own educational purposes? I don't want to be great at anything, but I at least want to know that my self and the devs can at least be on somewhat of a level as far as conversation to know what the other person is saying.

At least in the 360 scene there is an effort. If a person charges for any type of PCB, well you buy everything you need to etch a PCB and all of the components, and see if just ordering it was not fair to begin with. A DRM dongle is wrong, but a true product is understandable. With the first JB dongle, most of us bought a MCU that we could use for something else (if ever needed.) 3.55 was free , cobra (I dont always agree, but it does add PSP support, and you couldnt get that any other way.), and all the other slim of this scene. With the 360 scene we had the King Kong exploit, the JTAG, the newly found RGH (compatible on most phat boards and all slim boards) and they have had flashed drives within a few months of release (for all you warez mongers out there). The PS3 scene needs to remember who the people that support it are, these ungrateful *******s can all go to hell.

[CrystalWolf]

Ahh my eyes hurt after I read that. Very good read thanks @BobbyBlunt , and those DRM dongles right from JB2(aka TB) have started ruining the scene, and caused a lot of drama.

[condorstrike]

wow, my rants are usually shorter...lol.
nonetheless, good read...helped my insomnia .

[Nimation]

Well said @BobbyBlunt .Thanks for the post man.

[svenmullet]

I've never understood why hackers take it easy on PS3. There are people out there who have knowledge about the PS3 that could tear it wide open, yet they refuse to share the secrets out of some misguided loyalty to the brand. It's weird; it's the only hacking 'scene' that I've ever seen this in, and I've been a part of a lot of hacking 'scenes' (I know how to make a home-made Amiga 500 memory expansion, if that gives you an indication)

Sony can choke on my dick, honestly. It's not about people hiding sh*t because they are scared of Sony. They are hiding sh*t because they are selfish.

[kian2002]

this is all rubbish the reason the xbox scene is so good is because it funded.
simple as just to prove my point read the release of c4evr v3 it says funded by.
all xbox hacks require you to buy some thing.

the idea of a free scene has been gone for years only sony has been hacked in away that was free and that is why the scene is so bad
full of ungrateful haters who want every think for free

tell you what there is 100,000 people on hear we all donate £10 that £1,000,000 and offer that to the person who cracks the ps3 wide open it will take 1 day and we will all be back playing on psn with our copied games

[Warning]

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt DRM dongles are a disease, hated by most of this community

They are hated by a small minority of people.
As proven by a ps3hax poll that proved that around 2/3 of voting hax members like or do not care about the morality of dongles.
This poll was the altered by a TB hating staff member that added 100 fake votes to the total.

THe majority of people do not hate dongles

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