[big_russ]

system update debug.
that's the setting in the qa list.
but you never put it up?.

[pereb27]

As far as I know there's a tool called MA Downgrader to downgrade via software from JFW 3.56. However you might need a 3.55 CFW with lv1 checks patched.
Also, as soon as there is QA flag extra, the downgrade via recovery is activated. However, I'm pretty sure that 3.56 will refuse any 3.55 or lower PUP even if it is QA flagged. That's why they released that tool.

[carldenning]

what big russ said

System Update Debug

Allows you to enable or disable system update debug, which lets you to downgrade with official Sony update manager. Also allows easy firmware switching by storing a PS3UPDAT.PUP (can be renamed) in /dev_hdd0/updater/01, then another in /dev_hdd0/updater/02 etc. Then go to "System Update" > "Update via Hard Disk" and select the update to install.


found this http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/QA_Flagging

you turn it on then do what it says

the reason why it should work on 3.56 is because sony didnt change the token till 3.60 fw
************* [ - Post Merged - ] *************

Originally Posted by pereb27 As far as I know there's a tool called MA Downgrader to downgrade via software from JFW 3.56. However you might need a 3.55 CFW with lv1 checks patched.

thats what he thought but i think he couldnt find it or get any help from there site about it MAD

[pereb27]

Right, I checked myself, can't find ANYTHING about MAD.
Also contrary to popular belief, you don't need to turn "system update debug" to on. I have it off all the time and I can downgrade anyway. As soon as you have QA flag extra, the option is enabled. But yeah I don't know if that would work on 3.56.

[bartez82]

Originally Posted by sewershark l1+l2+l3+r1+r2+r3 and dpad down,if yes then yes i did what of those entries should enable downgrade ? -network settings -edy viewer -debug settings button behavior np enviorment game type game output resolution game output sound bgm player gamecontentutil boot path gamecontentutil dirname gamecontentutil boot path region settings fake other region display hdd free space fake limit size fake save data owner format system cache release check mode exception handler np debug npdrm debug npdrm clock debug service id msgdialogutil display errorcode format bd emulator hdd disable exitgame timeout core dump crash report poweronreset boot mode blu-ray disc access transfer rate pacing for bd emulator network setting for debug connection status list for debug connection settings for debug (dual settings) pad autodetect intialize boot parameters update server url video upload debug wake on lan playstation store ad clock dummy xmb (in game) debug dummy bgm player debug gameupdate impose test network emulation setting network emulation status mediatedserivices:mediator url mediatedserivices: provider data mediatedserivices:notifications wlan device nat traversal information adhoc ssi prefix disc auto-start at system startup 3d video output fake np sns throttle fake plus -install package files

For downgrade from Rogero v2 to 3.50 I used qa_flag.pkg and qa_flag_extra.pkg.After U qa_flag Your console U should see two more setings in System Update.If U have qa_flag Your PS3 U should downgrade without any problems.

1. Install CFW355-OTHEROS++-SPECIAL.pup (Doesn't matter what version you are. 3.55 and lower ONLY.)
2. Install qa_flag_extra.pkg 
3. Run qa_flag (It will show up as this, that is fine)
4. If you hear the beeps, continue. If you do not hear beeping, come to irc.
5. Reboot
6. Go into recovery menu and Update your ps3 with the firmware that you want (3.15, 3.41 etc)
7. have it install

This is example for 3.55 OtherOS but should works on JFW 3.56.

[sewershark]

installed qa_flag_extra.pkg,ran its psl1ght,3beeps,network settings l1+l2+l3+r1+r2+r3 + dpad down,debug setings,no "System Update Debug" entry

so i restarted ps3,again went in network settings l1+l2+l3+r1+r2+r3 + dpad down,debug setings displays and again no "System Update Debug" entry

went also to recovey menu it gives an error for corrupted data
am i missing something is what you said ?


p.s:MA downloader doesn't exist

[big_russ]

Setting Value Description
DTCP-IP on-off Digital Transmission Content Protection over Internet Protocol, a specification for copy protection of copyrighted content that is transferred over digital interfaces in home networks that adhere to IP. Allows you to turn it on or off for PS3.
ATRAC on/off Adaptive TRansform Acoustic Coding is a family of proprietary audio compression algorithms developed by Sony. Allows you to enable or disable ATRAC playback for your PS3 system.
WMA on/off Windows Media Audio is an audio data compression technology developed by Microsoft. Allows you to enable or disable WMA playback for your PS3 system.
NP Enviroment enviroment Allows you to change which environment your PS3 connects. Known enviroments are: C1-NP, D2-NP, D2-PMGT, D2-PQA, D2-SPINT, D3-NP, D3-PMGT, D3-PQA, D3-SPINT, D-NP, D-PMGT, D-PQA, D-SPINT, EI-NP, EI-PMGT, EI-PQA, EI-SPINT, HF, HF-NP, HF-PMGT, HF-PQA, HF-SPINT, H-NP, H-PMGT, H-PQA, H-SPINT, MGMT (Management), NP (Retail), PMGT, PQA, PROD-QA (Quality Assurance), Q2, Q2-NP, Q2-PMGT, Q2-PQA, Q2-SPINT, Q-NP, Q-PMGT, Q-PQA, Q-SPINT, RC, RC-NP, R-NP, R-PMGT, R-PQA, R-SPINT, SP-INT (Developer). There might be even more of different environments. See Environments
Fake Free Space (for CEX) on/off Use with Fake Limit Size to artificially set the free space on the PS3.
Fake Limit Size X MB Amount of free space left (in MB).
NP Debug on/off
NPDRM Debug off/No Entitlement(80029513)/ Deactivated(80029514)/ Unexpected Error
Edy Debug on/off Edy is a payment service in Japan, allows you to enable or disable debugging for Edy Viewer.
Nav-only NP on/off
Cdda Server Production/Evaluation
Crash Report on/off When the console crashes, a report can be sent to Sony servers
Crash reporter Status Ready/Busy/Never be called
VSH Crash Dump Generator on/off
System Update Debug on/off Allows you to enable or disable system update debug, which lets you to downgrade with official Sony update manager. Also allows easy firmware switching by storing a PS3UPDAT.PUP (can be renamed) in /dev_hdd0/updater/01, then another in /dev_hdd0/updater/02 etc. Then go to "System Update" > "Update via Hard Disk" and select the update to install.
Information Board QA Server on/off
Format Marlin Personal Data ? This appears to be related to Marlin DRM possibly for multimedia use.
PlayStation(R)Store Ad Clock on/off
Geo Filtering for PlayStation(R)Store Normal/Always Succeed/Always Fail
Remove Game License ?
Home Debug on/off
Delete Trophy Personal Data yes/no Allows you to delete all your PS3 trophies personal data
GameUpdate Impose Test on/off
Network Emulation Setting off/Option 1/Option 2/Option 3
Network Emulation Status ?
Auto-Off Debug on/off
WLAN Device on/off Enable/Disable the onboard wireless lan device
NAT Traversal Information ?
Internet Browser Debug on/off
SMSS Result Output on/off
Adhoc SSID Prefix PSP/?
Disc Auto-Start at System Startup on/off Allows you to start disc in-drive automatically when you start system on.
3D Video Output Automatic/On Allows you to set 3D Video Output automatic or always on.
Fake NP SNS Throttle Off (60 sec)/ On (0,10,120,3600,closed)
Debug for HDD Exchange Utility Clone your HDD straight to USB HDD, NO QA Token needed
Fake Plus on/off Display the playstation plus logo when signed into PSN
Push Console Binding on/off
Automatic Download on/off Set automatic download on or off. There's not info available what this does change. May be automatic system updates!
Motion Controller Calibration Result on/off Shows lastest results from motion controller calibration.
VideoEditor Delete Preset BGM

that's all what in qa if if you got rebug you get more.

[sewershark]

Originally Posted by bartez82 For downgrade from Rogero v2 to 3.50 I used qa_flag.pkg and qa_flag_extra.pkg.After U qa_flag Your console U should see two more setings in System Update.If U have qa_flag Your PS3 U should downgrade without any problems. 1. Install CFW355-OTHEROS++-SPECIAL.pup (Doesn't matter what version you are. 3.55 and lower ONLY.) 2. Install qa_flag_extra.pkg 3. Run qa_flag (It will show up as this, that is fine) 4. If you hear the beeps, continue. If you do not hear beeping, come to irc. 5. Reboot 6. Go into recovery menu and Update your ps3 with the firmware that you want (3.15, 3.41 etc) 7. have it install This is example for 3.55 OtherOS but should works on JFW 3.56.

Originally Posted by carldenning what big russ said System Update Debug Allows you to enable or disable system update debug, which lets you to downgrade with official Sony update manager. Also allows easy firmware switching by storing a PS3UPDAT.PUP (can be renamed) in /dev_hdd0/updater/01, then another in /dev_hdd0/updater/02 etc. Then go to "System Update" > "Update via Hard Disk" and select the update to install. found this http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/QA_Flagging you turn it on then do what it says the reason why it should work on 3.56 is because sony didnt change the token till 3.60 fw ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* thats what he thought but i think he couldnt find it or get any help from there site about it MAD

Originally Posted by big_russ System Update Debug on/off Allows you to enable or disable system update debug, which lets you to downgrade with official Sony update manager. Also allows easy firmware switching by storing a PS3UPDAT.PUP (can be renamed) in /dev_hdd0/updater/01, then another in /dev_hdd0/updater/02 etc. Then go to "System Update" > "Update via Hard Disk" and select the update to install. Information Board QA Server on/off that's all what in qa if if you got rebug you get more.

i already seen that page you pasted up there on the website ,i can't find what you wrote in red , i made this video let me know if any of you sees "System Update Debug" option and if i am missing someting . .

http://youtu.be/a3S1LF6K838

let me know and again thanks

[big_russ]

Originally Posted by sewershark i already seen that page you pasted up there on the website ,i can't find what you wrote in red , i made this video let me know if any of you sees "System Update Debug" option and if i am missing someting . . http://youtu.be/a3S1LF6K838 let me know and again thanks

right from what i can seethat is debug menu 2.
you need menu 1 let me think.

right try and run the first qa flag pkg.see if you get menu 1.

[sewershark]

Originally Posted by big_russ right from what i can seethat is debug menu 2. you need menu 1 let me think. right try and run the first qa flag pkg.see if you get menu 1.

tired that already installing and running either qaflag or qaflag extra will not bring different entries


if anyone of whom already posted or just googled and found this thread and knows a solution, i am open to any new ideas as long as it wont require soldering as i am unable to do that