[H3avyRa1n]

Originally Posted by federer38 Why people hate TB so much, I mean currently JB2 is the only way to play new games, and its very unlikely we will get new CFW ...

I beg to differ, OFW allows you to do that so it's not the ONLY way.

[AlexBaka]

Originally Posted by federer38 Why people hate TB so much, I mean currently JB2 is the only way to play new games, and its very unlikely we will get new CFW ...

I wondered about it myself till the moment i had come here and had "nice" talk with GrergoyRusputin :3 After that i read lots off threads here and after analyzing them - i got that the only thing TB does - stop the scene from development

Until u make a little research u will not be able to understand it.

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by AlexBaka I wondered about it myself till the moment i had come here and had "nice" talk with GrergoyRusputin :3 After that i read lots off threads here and after analyzing them - i got that the only thing TB does - stop the scene from development Until u make a little research u will not be able to understand it.

People want to play, and want to play now!. It's not about doing some research, it's obvious.
They rush, they buy/consume and TB/JB2 it's a good *option* for those who don't want to wait. (and don't know what it's waiting in first instance)
Yeah we can *consider* that TB/JB and others if you see the big picture, are *scene killers* but the objective it's crystal clear = BUY ONE.
It's an opportunist window targeting a certain quantity of possible buyers. (This is bad? i think not.)

It's pure marketing, It's business and for me it's ok.
Some people won't buy it, others don't care. Others do.
After all it's their money, not mine and it's your money to spend not theirs.
You have the power to choose and that's what it's about. Just plain and simple = business
And Business is everywhere..

[Gonzakpo]

Originally Posted by GraVoX959 Cool coz so am I (eat humble pie that is) Im not that much of a dick that I cant admit when Im wrong hehe I was told they just want to get this new dongle out before the modchip.. whilst it wont get as many sales as the original, it will still get a fair bloody few! Ive been told the original TB has sold around the 10,000 mark. That dongle has essentially made them all the money it will make them. Release a new dongle, throw in the disc games as EBOOTs, Final Fantasy & I guarantee you they will sell another 5000 before their chip drops

Do you know something else about this possible "modchip"? I mean, compatibility wise. Do you need to be on 3.55? What about the 3000 series?

[Wolfie708]

My opinion (for what it's worth lol) is that the first TB was acceptable as it gave the people willing to buy it an option of playing their newest games. I can't say I ever agreed with it, but understood it.

Then came along the other 2 and that for me is where the active dislike of it started as it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that no matter how much the 'Devs' bleated about morals and risk of law-suit, it was all garbage compared to money.

I find it hard to believe that the 3 'teams' who have created a dongle and/or the game hacks to go with it are total scene strangers who just waited in the wings until they felt like doing this.

DRM of this kind hobbles the real scene, and I bet my left testicle (I lost my right one in a previous bet ) that at least one of the people involved in it was one of the c*nts who bleated on about Piracy and law-suits before.

[TDMaster]

if TB was at the price of < 30$ there wasnt a problem.. (even thought it still not right)

[japsander]

Originally Posted by TDMaster if TB was at the price of < 30$ there wasnt a problem.. (even thought it still not right)

Sceners forcing drm on you is wrong even if the device was free. I will never change my stance on that.

[Gonzakpo]

Originally Posted by japsander Sceners forcing drm on you is wrong even if the device was free. I will never change my stance on that.

I'm not trying to defend the TB people here but I think that is fair for the developers behind the ps3 scene to earn some money from their work. But I also agree that the TB is extremely expensive and it's not a perfect solution. I mean, if the can decrypt new eboots, then probably they can decrypt new OFW. I bet they already know how to make a new CFW but they won't release it because it would be bad for their business.

On the other hand, if the developers don't get paid for what they do, then nobody would be backing up the PS3 scene. For example, the Xbox scene keeps going because the team xecuter charges for what they are doing (and I bet c4eva receives a big piece of that).

So in the end it's all about money. If there's money, then there will be devs trying hard to break the PS3. If there's no money, then the devs won't pay as much attention to the PS3 as we would like. They have a life to live too and guess what, it costs money!

I only wish they would focus on better solutions that include all consoles (3.60+ factory consoles too). The current solution is far from optimal. They are just decrypting and reencrypting eboots (my personal guess). If they have access to newer firmwares, they should focus on that so that every PS3 is jailbreakable.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by Gonzakpo I think that is fair for the developers behind the ps3 scene to earn some money from their work.

That's the thing, it isn't their work, also they aren't PS3 Devs, they are just some scum bags, earning cash of work the real PS3 Devs did for free.

[Gonzakpo]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin That's the thing, it isn't their work, also they aren't PS3 Devs, they are just some scum bags, earning cash of work the real PS3 Devs did for free.

Well, if that's true, then it changes my perspective of things. They are really scum bags and the worst kind of pirates.