[Annelies]

Good luck. I will keep up with your progress for as long as I can. I highly anticipate the outcome.

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[butnut]

Originally Posted by kAs1m People, stop sanding that crap, and think what do you get from it? Nothing! Svenmullet acting like he's from JB king's team or sony, who else get profit from this ****? svenmullet, if you want to stop TB then give us some working alternative. I suggest you to crack it and make it free, how's that? It will be the better way to stop sales.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard is, "Don't bring attention to a problem unless you can also provide a solution to it".

Think about it guys, if you cant come up with a better way, then what good is criticizing the current method?

How will putting TB out of business provide new games to the "scene"?

I'm guessing most of us against TB dislike it because all games are not free, well I'm sorry to say TB is the only method to play new games without updating the firmware on our ps3's, so killing TB without providing a free alternative will only succeed in ensuring no new games are playable on cfw.

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by butnut One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard is, "Don't bring attention to a problem unless you can also provide a solution to it". Think about it guys, if you cant come up with a better way, then what good is criticizing the current method? How will putting TB out of business provide new games to the "scene"? I'm guessing most of us against TB dislike it because all games are not free, well I'm sorry to say TB is the only method to play new games without updating the firmware on our ps3's, so killing TB without providing a free alternative will only succeed in ensuring no new games are playable on cfw.

Using some parallel thought there is no way that 14 monkey can jump at the same time and cause to earth to move from his own axis.
But still those 14 monkeys had the same objective.
They fail at the primary objective but instead created a wave. (It's something).

Some users will call it boycott, others a nonsense and the rest a nutcase.
Still, that 14 monkeys have the same tought. Not erradicate TB from the face of the earth neither hijack a cargo of the dongle.
Solutions, We have always an alternative solution.
The objective has been heard, and someone reply to that calling.
But the primary objective (if can be called like that) it's to crack it open.

Maybe the ones who want boycott will not get what they expected to.
Neither the user who thinks this is pure nonsense, but the one who is aware about this topic will get something because the user is motivated for a cause.
Results?, will see what happens. But if you don't want to jump at the same time like other monkeys, you probably *die* in your own conformity. It's ok but no one in first instance forced you to do something that you don't want to or say something that you don't like to say.

Freedom of choice.

[svenmullet]

N/M I clicked a link that had highlight tags in it. Why would anyone do that? It scared the crap outta me

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by svenmullet What the hell? Why are the words "true" and "blue highlighted in red on the first post? Was there a filter or something put in here?! [edit] true blue [edit2] nope, it's just on the first post.

Nope no filter, and was not edited the first post. I don't see trueblue in red.
So it's cool.

[butnut]

Originally Posted by hellsing9 Using some parallel thought there is no way that 14 monkey can jump at the same time and cause to earth to move from his own axis. But still those 14 monkeys had the same objective. They fail at the primary objective but instead created a wave. (It's something). Some users will call it boycott, others a nonsense and the rest a nutcase. Still, that 14 monkeys have the same tought. Not erradicate TB from the face of the earth neither hijack a cargo of the dongle. Solutions, We have always an alternative solution. The objective has been heard, and someone reply to that calling. But the primary objective (if can be called like that) it's to crack it open. Maybe the ones who want boycott will not get what they expected to. Neither the user who thinks this is pure nonsense, but the one who is aware about this topic will get something because the user is motivated for a cause. Results?, will see what happens. But if you don't want to jump at the same time like other monkeys, you probably *die* in your own conformity. It's ok but no one in first instance forced you to do something that you don't want to or say something that you don't like to say. Freedom of choice.

You are correct, we all deserve freedom of choice, and I chose to point out what I consider to be the fallacy of this movement. I am not forcing or even attempting to coerce anyone into a particular course of action.

I am only asking people to think before they do take action.

If you don't look at both sides of the coin, how can you truly asses its value?

[pampos]

Emails sent and im proud of it i hope it works!!!

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by butnut You are correct, we all deserve freedom of choice, and I chose to point out what I consider to be the fallacy of this movement. I am not forcing or even attempting to coerce anyone into a particular course of action. I am only asking people to think before they do take action. If you don't look at both sides of the coin, how can you truly asses its value?

You are correct too, there is not incorrect just a posture towards something.
Any movement have a fallacy or can be labeled as *whole fallacy* it's up to the ones not to be guided for *being cool* *and anti-tb* in this case.
Look how much causes had their fallacies and got something in exchange.
Anon for example.
People with PIPA and SOPA infected their own personal computers with LOIC to generate a response. (Compromising their own personal information).
It's up to the minority to stop and think about it.
But even with errors in the scheme, or errors in the structure the objective can be done.
My concept towards this cause it's to see o get TB cracked (not out of market) and reveal once for all the truth (ironic) behind it.
You are paying for something that it's free, the paradox that users (like i said in another post) want rapid solutions, and don't know to wait and many of this users will purchase a product that it's free.
It's ok, it's awesome but some of that minority that *Said **** i buy TB i don't care what happens next i don't want to wait* Are the firsts one to register in a forum and ***** all they can because the product (free) that they bought it was corrupted and rendered obsolote.

Get my point?.

[kAs1m]

Originally Posted by svenmullet 1) Why do we have to "get something" from it to do the right thing? This is exactly the attitude that allows TB to sell dongles, selfish, self-centered brats with a sense of entitlement and no regards for anyone else but their own selfish, needy little selves. 2) Oh, right. I'm definitely from JB King or Sony, because I call a spade a spade. 3) I don't have to give you anything, but I will anyway. Here it is, are you ready? If you want to play new games on your PS3, update to the latest FW and BUY THE F*CKING GAMES instead of giving money to crooks and pirating the games. There. That's the big magic method that is guaranteed to work. You can buy a ylod for $40-$50 and reflow it, update it, and you're good to go. Oh, but wait- you meant "Give us a way to pirate new games" didn't you? F*ck off. 4) Yes, it needs to be cracked. I agree with you on that.

1) Who said that it's right? And, if someone buy it then someone needs it.
2) I don't see any reasons why you can't be from JB King's team.
3) I don't want to.
4) So do it.

[svenmullet]

@butnut : I don't really know what your feelings are about TB (I assume you have one and think it's a good product?)

I'm not against it because it's a bandwagon to jump on, nor am I just "*****ing" about it because I want everything to be free. I hate this thing because of what it represents, namely exploiting impatient kids with the promise of "free" games. Even if/when this thing is cracked wide open, I doubt I'll use the resulting information to play pirated games, I mean, I'm currently playing Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2008. I just really don't care about playing the latest/greatest games, but I know a lot of people do, and that's what makes me rage. If anything, the reason I'm so actively against this thing is because I actually *care* about other people and don't like seeing fellow sceners getting taken advantage of. In this case, they seem to be their own worst enemy though, and defend their oppressors. I guess you just can't save some people from themselves. What they're doing, though, whether they realise it or not, is stopping all progress. They have what they want, who cares about anything/anyone else? And TB has set a bad precedent here, namely monetized piracy. No one likes 'working' for free, that's true, but real hackers don't consider it 'work', the console scenes were traditionally free and open, and that paradigm seems to be gone forever. You want me to shut up about TB? Fine, you go ahead and continue getting shafted by some parasitic scumbags. As I said, you can't save some people from themselves, and myself and other like-minded people will leave you to your new overlords. Better use lube.
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Originally Posted by kAs1m 1) Who said that it's right? And, if someone buy it then someone needs it. 2) I don't see any reasons why you can't be from JB King's team. 3) I don't want to. 4) So do it.

1) I said it's right, and many others as well. You know nothing about hacking, you just got mommy to give you $60 so you can haz the warez. As I said on ps3crunch (and got banned for it) "Get the f*ck out of my scene and take your stupid dongles with you"
2) You, sir, are an idiot. JB King doesn't want TB to go away. (hint: it would put them out of business too. You know, eboots?)
3) I know you don't. You already have your free games dildo.
4) Why, so snotty little brats like you can haz more free gamez? Once again, f*ck off.