[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by mirkie Omg you are a hard learner aren't you? If we can log all packets of TB, then we can use them on future tb eboots on the tb cfw. So we basically make a fake "TB" dongle. I know this is possible with a iPhone so we could use that the log the packets from the PS3. And ofcourse the USB says "hello" but every USB sends different packets so does the TB dongle.

In all honesty, why would anyone want to clone something that could potentially wipe your hard drive? Are people that desperate for newer warez? Don't anyone say games either, because if it were games that people wanted, then people would simply update to OFW.

[mirkie]

Originally Posted by svenmullet @mirkie To put it plainly, the PS3 sends for example "0123456789ABCDEF" and the dongle takes that, encrypts it with the key, and sends it back as authentication. Once authenticated, CFW loads the payload-enabled portion of itself and boots. Dongle probably has sections of the CFW in it, which it sends encrypted to the PS3. It's mathematically impossible to reverse the algo/keys using this though. As

Btw, don't talk like you've done this before. You don't even know if the PS3 sends encrypted data. If it were like that, then JB-King wouldn't exist. I am 100% sure they did what I said.

[svenmullet]

:facepalm:

Do you know anything at all about cryptographic authentication? Once the TB CFW has determined that it's a TB dongle (via vid/pid) it will send a *random* string, which the dongle must authenticate by returning said string encrypted with the key. You can spoof anything to be a TB dongle, but it will fail authentication every time unless you know the algo/key.

I'm done arguing about it. Consider yourself schooled on it, and please refer to my previous statement (which I even repeated) that the dongle is a red herring, only there to waste people's time trying to crack. (and to monetize their piracy)

[mirkie]

Originally Posted by svenmullet :facepalm: Do you know anything at all about cryptographic authentication? Once the TB CFW has determined that it's a TB dongle (via vid/pid) it will send a *random* string, which the dongle must authenticate by returning said string encrypted with the key. You can spoof anything to be a TB dongle, but it will fail authentication every time unless you know the algo/key. I'm done arguing about it. Consider yourself schooled on it, and please refer to my previous statement (which I even repeated) that the dongle is a red herring, only there to waste people's time trying to crack. (and to monetize their piracy)

The only persons who fails is you. You don't have the dongle, you don't know anything about the dongle and talk about cryptography. Hide yourself dude.

edit:

Also about this part:

Once the TB CFW has determined that it's a TB dongle (via vid/pid) it will send a *random* string, which the dongle must authenticate by returning said string encrypted with the key.

Are you retarded? How the **** would you know that without having the source code or without packetsniffing. Don't act like the smart guy because you AREN'T!

[svenmullet]

And @mirkie once again shows his true colours. Someone ban this ridiculous troll. How's your 4.11CFW coming along, BTW?

[mirkie]

Originally Posted by svenmullet And @mirkie once again shows his true colours. Someone ban this ridiculous troll. How's your 4.11CFW coming along, BTW?

True colors? I am talking about facts.

[euss]

Originally Posted by zadow28 If you actuelly read also, its says encrypted, not decrypted. So really didnt get that point.

Yes, just like I was telling on IRC past week when you posted it as "decrypted" and explained why it would never be decrypted at all without using the TBkey(s) themselves. Indeed, I acknowledged what I said before, up to the moment you found out I was right all along.

Originally Posted by zadow28 Well if i actuelly got some advice, as i always ask for, insteed off screaming fake at first site, not only for you but everybody els.

Sure, everyone seeking advice can get it. Free, no charge, for the grabs, open, sharing, if possible including source and documentation.

Originally Posted by zadow28 Then we may or maynot ,have find away for getting it to work. All the stuff i posted, was done the way i posted it,always said you could try for youself. Never onces did i fake any pastie or anything els that i posted.

I never kept a close eye on it, but it certainly gotten a bit nodex taste with certain claims, repraisal and repasties/quotes.

Originally Posted by zadow28 well maybe expect the ¤#%/#()(%¤%¤%/& thing the correct one was. OS@*iuQu\x1B point was that it was unreadable.

Yes, encrypted data tends to have a high entrophy.

Originally Posted by zadow28 Dont really get all the Help on irc that, you done, and was much appriciated, for doing.

No problem, I am still there and on ps3devwiki helping out those who seek.

Originally Posted by zadow28 And then calling me fake also, indirectly though.

Well, that is the downside of claims set too high or untrue. I bet it would have a different impact if this thread was just named "lets find this on out, together" instead of a thread with resonance of being "the one that will put the scene forward".

Originally Posted by zadow28 like Wolfie708 said stop beeing so selfcenteret.

I fail to see the selfcenterness in living a life with open sharing towards a community, working together, profitless, no names, without ego, for years. (perhaps it's just a little too sensitive atm and is it too soon to passthrough all stages: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance - eitherway, I'll take those words lightly).

Originally Posted by zadow28 This was actuelly suppose to be an thread, where we all worked together.

Great

Originally Posted by zadow28 Not many got that point.

Shame
At least I hope now more people get the point to use that reply box for more then "great work" "breakthrough" etc when another deadend is jumped in. Too bad forums are lately more "post-count" gatherers then "post-quality" efforts (which is the reason, we talked earlier about, for me to not do alot of forums)

Originally Posted by zadow28 So buttom line is that i dont give a rat, about new CFW keys and ****.

me neither, never did. have way too much fun and things to do on 3.15's that I barely have free the time to use them otherwise.

Originally Posted by zadow28 only goal from me was getting the monopoly, that the dongles had away.

Even when all keys, all eboots and premade firmware with donglekeys in them is released, there will still be dongles around (and people buying them).

Originally Posted by zadow28 Dont really have to take this crab,

It is only crap when it is nonconstructive, nonhelping, pertains misinformation or keeps people hanging on paths that lead nowhere.

Originally Posted by zadow28 So this will be my last post, here on hax for an long time.

Forumless doesn't mean you have to stop. If you remember our convos on IRC, and scroll back you will even see it was foretold.

Originally Posted by zadow28 Sad thing is by all this crapp the dongles actuely win !!

Only quiters give up to let the other win. Don't decide on a minor fallback to totally give up. If you give up now, some people might get the idea you where pulling their leg all along

Originally Posted by zadow28 Regards and goodby.

Originally Posted by zadow28 Ill be working to my own.....

Good luck

[enosrasun]

Originally Posted by svenmullet :facepalm: Do you know anything at all about cryptographic authentication? Once the TB CFW has determined that it's a TB dongle (via vid/pid) it will send a *random* string, which the dongle must authenticate by returning said string encrypted with the key. You can spoof anything to be a TB dongle, but it will fail authentication every time unless you know the algo/key. I'm done arguing about it. Consider yourself schooled on it, and please refer to my previous statement (which I even repeated) that the dongle is a red herring, only there to waste people's time trying to crack. (and to monetize their piracy)

ok ,try this if you can log the tb dongle,you don't need the keys
this can be done with a real tb dongle

the ps3 send 1 encrypted pack ,
the dongle receive it and
send the response to ps3

you don't need the key only the right pack (the pack that ps3 is waiting)

the key is use to decrypt the pack to see what is in it

so the ps3 sends "hello" (encrypted ,can be "gjujdfu") the dongle decryt it and sends back
"hi xxx" (encrypted can be "gfgerou9")

you need the key to see it as "hi xxx" but the ps3 expect "gfgerou9" when he sends "gjujdfu" (hello)

ps like when you copy at school ,you don't know what you copy (encrypted for you ) but is the correct answer for the problem

[japsander]

Originally Posted by euss Well, that is the downside of claims set too high or untrue. I bet it would have a different impact if this thread was just named "lets find this on out, together" instead of a thread with resonance of being "the one that will put the scene forward".

absolutely this.

and you are one of the only knowledgeable ones that i have seen actively helping and giving info out

[Simonbuck]

Some of you so called "Dev's" are a bunch of C**nts as far as I am concerned, you write your little Wiki as the its the FU***in Bibble, you wont listen or help anyone else who wants to have a go, you are the most selfish bunch of C**nts I had the miss fortune to listen too.

What the **** are you bringing to the scene ??? . **** all but slaggin others off who are trying to help, you have just pissed of another up and coming person with the sole intention of helping.

Mr ****in half hen didnt have a clue and couldnt come...... wankers

Get off your high horse you bunch of C**ts and help not hinder

youve just lost another, no wonder the scene is dead..



Thanks @zadow for your input so for and remember "LLAMEDOS"