[butnut]

Originally Posted by euss Correction: a group of anonymous individuals reversed engineered it, recoded it into an open source version and released it without ego to the public, with the exception of one person, Mathieulh. Those people documented its progress on a wiki, which again was egoless published, a wiki which later was removed by Mathieulh from the face of this planet when raids took place at its greatest wiki contributor: Graf_chokolo. Shortly after, defyboy (together with community help) resurrected that legacy online on his own costs with the vision that information should be free and available to everyone. That site is now over a year further, grown to over 1250 pages had over 2 million visitors and can still to be found @ www.ps3devwiki.com To anyone that dares to say "it is dead" : try to keep up with its daily additions since day0

You make a compelling argument.

Would you be willing to provide non refutable proof to back up your claims of whom actually reversed engineered the original JB?

[apexcore]

The scene is not even able (or willing) to crack the TB dongle (or even the less protected JB2USB) encryption, they have no chance of cracking any new games. My motto is always if you can't beat them, join them. That's why I got a PS3, because PC gaming is dead. And that's why I got a JBK dongle, since no scene devs can even crack the TB dongle encryption.

[cyberdude]

i dont think its dead,just frozen and we have to thaw out the trueblue for it to continue to grow

[butnut]

Are You Still There? - Portal - YouTube

[japsander]

@butnut ALL proof can be refuted so what's the point? People will still believe what they want to no matter how much proof is given.

[GregoryRasputin]

@gambaownsu i don't really care what you say or think about the people you mentioned, because some of what you say is the truth, on the exception of one person, and that person is @euss , who is possibly the single most dedicated person to this community.

• euss works every f*cking day, for FREE, one just needs add the dev wiki feed to their RSS reader and they will see how much he does.
• euss is ALWAYS willing to help when you ask.
• euss NEVER asks for donations.
• euss REFUSES hardware donations.
• euss has to deal with being pestered and annoyed by people asking him n00b questions and even though the questions can be stupid, he always pleasantly responds.

So as i said, you can say all you want about the others you mentioned, i won't even get annoyed at you having a dig at me about posting rumours, but where i do draw the line, is people attacking euss.

EDIT.
For those complaining the scene is dead, explain how that is possible, when we never really had a scene to begin with, we have a community of people, but we don't and never had a scene.

[butnut]

Originally Posted by japsander @butnut ALL proof can be refuted so what's the point? People will still believe what they want to no matter how much proof is given.

Fact: People cannot fly without using any external power source or device.

Refute that.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by butnut Fact: People cannot fly without using any external power source or device. Refute that.

R Kelly will refute that

[Annelies]

Originally Posted by butnut Fact: People cannot fly without using any external power source or device. Refute that.

Do you even know what you're talking about? Do you know what a "fact" is?

You just said that the Universe will collapse and our reality will cease to exist before a single person is able to fly.

Did you know it is possible for someone to be born with wings?

Refute that.

[butnut]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin R Kelly will refute that

"Spread my wings and touch the sky"

wow... I had completely forgot about that song until you made this post.

Thanks man, I have NOT laughed this hard in a long time.