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Old 04-12-2012   #11
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Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
So why do people use Showtime as opposed to just converting the video to be in a format the PS3 recognizes? Basically, why should I use Showtime, and what is it's purpose? I'm curious, as I haven't had a jailbroken PS3 in a while and if I ever get one I'd like to know why I would need this. Also, doesn't multiMAN come with Showtime built-in?
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Is that Real Media Video your talking about? That's not only a proprietary format, but not a very good one at that. Why don't you use MKV or MP4 or even AVI? At least in terms of codec performance and general use definitions those are better. Variable bit rates suck anyway. Take it from someone who use to edit film and audio professionally.
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Yes, it's not really necessary especially due to the DNLA functionality of the PS3 and using something like PS3 media server or tversity.. but a lot of people do have a standalone NAS which doesn't have a 'transcoding' functionality or a powerfull enough PC for 1080p (especially when subtitles are required) (which I also don't have, but then again, I have a 720p projector so I don't care about 1080p)..
But one of the nicer things about showtime is the all-in-one mediaplaying software (except physical bluray itself for now)..
And having to transcode every movie yourself using an external application before you can use it, is also a bit too much, and let's not forget, the PS3 doesn't support a lot of the commonly used containers/codecs.. It's a shame that the PS3 still hasn't got MKV support even though all cheaper/newer mediaplayers can do it (and let's not forget, even Sony's own newer devices support it)..
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Old 04-13-2012   #12
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You don't get CINAVIA messages using it.
You don't need to make the video 1280*720 or 1920*1080 to be able to play AVCHD with subtitles, basically you just put the MKV with an SRT next to it on the PS3 HDD and it plays.

Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
So why do people use Showtime as opposed to just converting the video to be in a format the PS3 recognizes? Basically, why should I use Showtime, and what is it's purpose? I'm curious, as I haven't had a jailbroken PS3 in a while and if I ever get one I'd like to know why I would need this. Also, doesn't multiMAN come with Showtime built-in?
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Is that Real Media Video your talking about? That's not only a proprietary format, but not a very good one at that. Why don't you use MKV or MP4 or even AVI? At least in terms of codec performance and general use definitions those are better. Variable bit rates suck anyway. Take it from someone who use to edit film and audio professionally.
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That's what the remote is for?
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Old 04-13-2012   #13
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i use real media cause it is an extremely small format for its quality.
i have a lot of tv series in that format i used to watch in but then my computer stopped and i couldn't stream it.
i have like over one hundred files i would need to convert.
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Old 04-13-2012   #14
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The quality of this application is superb...In my case what I use showtime for is as a mediatomb player. Normally my ps3 cannot play my 1080p blueray .mkv rips. By using showtime it can. Additionally the quality is superb.

Showtime autoupdates from within multiman simply press triange when the app is highlighted...

Thanks you for your tireless dev this app has changed my life...just watched the Elephant Man in 1080p goodness...it really moved me...that would have never happened with my normal equipment...having a hacked ps3 is really really cool...
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Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
So why do people use Showtime as opposed to just converting the video to be in a format the PS3 recognizes? Basically, why should I use Showtime, and what is it's purpose? I'm curious, as I haven't had a jailbroken PS3 in a while and if I ever get one I'd like to know why I would need this. Also, doesn't multiMAN come with Showtime built-in?
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I'm glad Andreas finally answered my request, playing DVD-Iso's was one of my main gripes, as burning dvd9 videos is just cumbersome.

Speaking of which, and regarding the above quote, it would be a waste of time to reconvert a video, I don't get why people like reconverting stuff. It's bloody irritating that source videos, music and images are hard to find nowadays because people keep on converting.

But if you haven't got custom firmware it's understandable, I just wish Sony made these codecs officially available. But of course, why would they? They force us to update our firmwares so they can control our machines.

Can someone please start an anti-firmware petition? The next generation of consoles looks flippin' awful. I mean 'No used games'? Permanent internet connection? This is not the gaming I used to know and love, where you pop a game in the machine and start playing, this is gaming fascism.
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Old 04-16-2012   #16
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I'm glad Andreas finally answered my request, playing DVD-Iso's was one of my main gripes, as burning dvd9 videos is just cumbersome.

Speaking of which, and regarding the above quote, it would be a waste of time to reconvert a video, I don't get why people like reconverting stuff. It's bloody irritating that source videos, music and images are hard to find nowadays because people keep on converting.
I like converting stuff for the following reasons:
1. I can convert into a format that is universal and plays on all my devices
2. I can make it smaller in size
3. I can embed or add subtitles
4. I can use it in on my website with HTML5
5. Increase quality
6. I don't have to worry about how I play it or what I play it with
7. Upconverting/editing

I don't know why people DON'T like converting stuff, it only benefits the person. It seems Showtime isn't for me, as I convert and download/stream everything and put it onto my portable hard drive for safe keeping.

In regards to joshisposer, I think Real Media is ok, not horrible. It's better than WMV or (God forbid) MOV. All proprietary formats suck because nobody knows how they work. I know exactly how MP4 works, and how Webm works, and OGV. They are well documented and open. Anyway, I guess everyone likes what they like in terms of codecs and containers and what not, but the way I see it, if I encode everything then I don't have to worry about anything in terms of how it's encoded or whatever because it works on the devices I need it to, as well as being high quality (1080p, usually 1024/2048kbps video and 320kbps audio). Just my opinion. BTW, I use WinFF to convert things and I have used HandBrake, FormatFactory, and MediaCoder in the past, do you guys have any suggestions for free/open-source alternatives?

EDIT:Actually, I have also used VLC Media PLayer to convert, and the main problem that I have with most of these programs is either they let you not put in or put in incorrectly items, and it takes my computer (the one I use for converting) a really long time to do it, and the output file is garbage. I want something that either has presets for audio/videophiles or is simple enough to just work. I can get stuff to convert in VLC and MediaCoder sometimes, but FormatFactory seems to work most of the time, but it occasionally has problems as well. I convert stuff all the time (obviously), I know the settings, I've talked to the devs of these programs and they have been helpful, but I just am looking for something a little more click, convert, work. Lol.

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Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
In regards to joshisposer, I think Real Media is ok, not horrible. It's better than WMV or (God forbid) MOV. All proprietary formats suck because nobody knows how they work. I know exactly how MP4 works, and how Webm works, and OGV. They are well documented and open.
Uhm, enough people know how WMV and MOV work, the formats have been documented plenty, only problem is that it mostly uses video/audiocodecs which are using patented stuff which is a ***** to get around. but WMV and MOV are only containers just like MKV is, it supports countless of codecs, and it's up to the encoder to specify which video/audiocodec is used.
Those formats (and used proprietary codecs) are far from horrible, some are even much better. And let's not forget MP4 isn't opensource at all, and just to kick you in the head: MP4 is completely based on QuickTime MOV. So you also know exactly how MOV works.. but I guess you have not really grasped the concept of Containers vs Codecs, which a lot of people seem to not know.
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Uhm, enough people know how WMV and MOV work, the formats have been documented plenty, only problem is that it mostly uses video/audiocodecs which are using patented stuff which is a ***** to get around. but WMV and MOV are only containers just like MKV is, it supports countless of codecs, and it's up to the encoder to specify which video/audiocodec is used.
Those formats (and used proprietary codecs) are far from horrible, some are even much better. And let's not forget MP4 isn't opensource at all, and just to kick you in the head: MP4 is completely based on QuickTime MOV. So you also know exactly how MOV works.. but I guess you have not really grasped the concept of Containers vs Codecs, which a lot of people seem to not know.
Yeah, the patented stuff is what I was talking about. As a developer, it's hard to use those formats in a project without a whole SDK to implement the technology. I knew MP4 was based on MOV/QuickTime, and I'm glad you said something, or I would've talked everyone's ear off about the incorrect container/codec combo. Maybe I meant [insert proprietary codec here], regardless, the point was most proprietary codecs aren't as good because of lack of university/common knowledge. I didn't mean those formats suck (I say horrible and suck a lot, it's my thing, but usually it just means I prefer to use something else, lol), I actually use some of those formats (like bink video and WMV) for projects (not often mind you). All in all, I was giving general advice, and like I said, everyone uses different ones. I'm only human, dude. We all make mistakes. Like the post a long time ago, when I was post raped by the mods about 3.60 keys. Lol.

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That's what the remote is for?
Yeah but my tv-remote is broken
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Originally Posted by vgturtle127 View Post
I like converting stuff for the following reasons:
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5. Increase quality
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I don't know why people DON'T like converting stuff, it only benefits the person. It seems Showtime isn't for me, as I convert and download/stream everything and put it onto my portable hard drive for safe keeping.

In regards to joshisposer, I think Real Media is ok, not horrible. It's better than WMV or (God forbid) MOV. All proprietary formats suck because nobody knows how they work. I know exactly how MP4 works, and how Webm works, and OGV...
"Increase in quality"?? LOL, your ignorance is blinding. I would also be impressed if you had something erudite to say about MP4 -let's hear it.

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the latest updates fixes many audio problem

nah,serious..keep up the updates
YES, YES, YES! The latest update has magically made a couple of my vids compatible - notably those that would play directly through the PS3's native XMV video player but not in Showtime. With ST compatibility, I can play these foreign films with subtitles in .srt. Awesome.

Even greater compatibility would be great. In two areas:
  • Wider codec support
  • Optimized video playback performance. ST not as efficient as native XBM video player, and chokes on some videos where native XMB video player doesn't.

Good work nevertheless! Thanks for all the effort.

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