[Calliope]

Originally Posted by TizzyT I was supposed to sleep so long ago but got caught up on some important stuffs erhm, erhm "anime" lol. Before I decided to go to bed I thought I'd check PS3hax and I saw this thread. I started reading and was amazed that euss and defyboy was in on the discussion lol. Calliope, you might not have been here long and you are entitled to your opinions but don't start saying things that can either make people angry or cause a misunderstanding. I'm guessing you are saying that the wiki can never be 100 percent accurate and well that is a possibility but you can't just come out and say something on there is misleading or contradicting without first testing and verifying first, if you did people are going to want to know what it was and hence where we are now. Sure some people do read and are like drones but you can't really consider euss one since he tests/verify/disprove/add/edit many things on the wiki himself, He is constantly contributing and if you can't take his or any of many other wiki contributors words then tests/verify/disprove/add/edit the things yourself. Now I will not deny it I love euss "no homo", for the knowledge he has, whether its all accurate or not I don't know but I do look up to him and others like him. When there is something I need an answer to I try asking him, He points me to wiki many times and I honestly/personally find it a very well organized place. Now can't we all just drop this misunderstanding .

It was never a question in regards to Euss contribution to the Wiki or not. I was just starting it from a general perspective. I did not even know that Euss was the one maintaining it. I just don't simply accept what people say to be the divine truth, I investigate and find out for myself. I was being objective and people started getting personal for no reason at all. If we do not question what we are told, how are we ever gonna figure things out for ourselves? This is nothing personal so people should get over themselves and focus on the task at hand

[svenmullet]

Hmmm, in 2 days, this Calliope has posted some religious/philosophical BS, accused the ps3devwiki of containing intentionally wrong/misleading info (and won't point out a single example), C+Pd a sh1tslurry of random, mostly unrelated posts from various sources, with no context, quoting, or credits (and if I'd not noticed my own words mixed in there and said something it would still be that way), and claims to be immensely knowledgeable in PS3 stuff, yet has contributed nothing but fake "ideas" and wannabe team leading in any conversation I've seen him/her/it in. Now, after a few people got suspicious and asked what's up, he/she/it starts flaming. Is there really any need to finish this post?

[euss]

Originally Posted by Calliope You just proved my point without knowing it! My point is EXACTLY that there are aspects that are valid as well as there are aspects that are invalid!

PS3 is a console [edit:2] made by Sony. [edit:3]with components of IBM
etc.
Nothing wrong there, only improvements.

Originally Posted by Calliope And I can say that without stating which are valid or invalid.

You mean you are incapable to validate it, even though it is explained on the very page you quote. So much for a academic mind.

Originally Posted by Calliope Are you telling me that there have not been made any corrections to the data present there ever since the Wiki was created until now?

There are only so many edits you can do to explain that X is X. Not all the Y and Z in the world can change that mathematical and physical fact.

Originally Posted by Calliope And can you guarantee that there won't be any corrections made in the future?

So far the page you are accusing is full of disassembly, pictures, datasheets, analyse, verify, proof, traceback, do and redo, second opinion, side angles etc. Clearly you can further n00bify sentences so they are better understood by people like you, or deepen them into other areas, but that still does not change any /fact/ of the initial documented research. It did not change your dongle, did not change your payload, did not change your firmware, did not change the pinout of the chips, never changed the handshaking protocol etc. because those are physical realities that do not change, not even after a million edits.

Originally Posted by Calliope If so then you're stating that you know everything there is to know in regards to the PS3, which would be quite stupid to presume.

You are welcome to correct/check my 8000 edits on wiki and verify my research, including its resource of 15K documents it is based on.

Originally Posted by Calliope The data present there changes as do our knowledge in regards to the PS3.

Physical realities do not change with changes of perception. They stay the same. Just because the sun is now a sun and no longer a god will not change the scientific fact you will burn up like an Icarus when going in to close.

Originally Posted by Calliope Only ignorant people will say that we now know all there is to know in regards to the PS3 because that would be outright stupid to think so.

Only ignorant people accuse scientific research without proof of their claims. Yet you do so in multiple topics.

Originally Posted by Calliope We do have a lot of information, but we do not have enough information to declare what is the ultimate truth in regards to the PS3 and the information we have.

Actually there is way more out there then you can imagine. You have no clue about even 1/1000th of the 15K documents the wiki bases its research on, yet you claim them to be false.

Originally Posted by Calliope There are two ways to approach your dilemma:

Its YOUR dillema, you created it, you kept it alive, you put it out into the world and you proclaim it as ultimate truth.
I told you what todo, just like I told it in wiki: put your money where your mouth it and STEP UP or shut up.

Originally Posted by Calliope I either falsify or verify.

So far you have been falsifying without any proof, so its YOUR time to disassembly, analyse, verify, proof, traceback, do and redo, second opinion, side angles etc. I already did that on ps3devwiki, you can easily trace my steps and see where I am wrong or misguided (in your words).

Originally Posted by Calliope Verifying the information there is easy

Yes it is. Easy as pie, or actually even easier then the square root of pi.

Originally Posted by Calliope I as I would only look for things that would agree with my perception of things. Falsifying is much harder thus more scientific.

There is nothing scientific in falsifying or looking only inside your own perception. If that is what YOU call scientific then there is really no hope in this topic.

Originally Posted by Calliope Now stop riding my di*k and use your resources to something useful for the scene

Stop wanking the greatest resource the PS3 scene ever had as if it is your ladyboy. Learn that is not ment for that. Learn how to become a real scientist instead of a wolly mammoth on a egodickride.
If you want to know how, I know a very good wiki that can teach you just that

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by svenmullet Hmmm, in 2 days, this Calliope has posted some religious/philosophical BS, accused the ps3devwiki of containing intentionally wrong/misleading info (and won't point out a single example), C+Pd a sh1tslurry of random, mostly unrelated posts from various sources, with no context, quoting, or credits (and if I'd not noticed my own words mixed in there and said something it would still be that way), and claims to be immensely knowledgeable in PS3 stuff, yet has contributed nothing but fake "ideas" and wannabe team leading in any conversation I've seen him/her/it in. Now, after a few people got suspicious and asked what's up, he/she/it starts flaming. Is there really any need to finish this post?

I already answered all of your bullsh!t before. If you still have trouble reading and understanding what I already have stated then I suggest you get someone to help the read and understand what I have already stated.

[euss]

Originally Posted by Calliope I don't understand what your point is by quoting "looks like a very important people", but I am not here to seem somewhat A or B.

So far you made a good troll with wild accusations without any claims, while the ps3devwiki proves its claims and even explains alternatives to check on the data.

Originally Posted by Calliope I am here to solve a problem or try to, which have had this scene at a standstill for at long time.

Wake up call : you are doing a very bad job at it. Not only that, you are further fragmenting it by even claiming wilgoose chases that checked and verified data is falsified on purpose.

Originally Posted by Calliope And I do use logics, probability theory and falsification.

So far there is no factual logic to be detected in your accusations, nor any proof, nor indirect evidence, while ps3devwiki did the opposite.

Originally Posted by Calliope Finding and solving the causal connection between what is working and what is not is of the essence.

Wake-up call: you have to have a real sense of how things work, what works and what is fact.

Originally Posted by Calliope We all have our strengths and weaknesses.

So far my greatest weakness was the addictiveness of documenting reliable checked/rechecked, data on a wiki together with over 400 individuals.

My strength is that my stomache can handle alot of coffee needed to pull that off for over a year.

Originally Posted by Calliope The point is not what you do have, but more what can you bring to the table and would it benefit the situation.

Hello? I am sitting on that table and the menu says : falsified data from a devious cook.
I have brought enough on the table, certainly a a c(r)ook I deserve better then to be slandered on a random forum?

Originally Posted by Calliope We all have our take on the situation and our way of solving a problem. I work in a problem-orientated manner.

You mean you keep turning and turning while creating more problems and solving none.

Originally Posted by Calliope I don't honestly see what your point was in your last post nor in this post. You seem like an ignoramus to me with your last remark.

Mirror mirror on the wall... Pot->kettle...

Originally Posted by Calliope Some people just don't think for themselves. They just believe what they are told as drones. Reasoning can seem what impossible for some

Time for you to take your own advice LMAO

Originally Posted by Calliope So now you're quoting your grandfather to verify the fact that you're an ignoramus? And you sure are the finest one around because you don't comprehend the word leecher nor the proper usage of ignoramus. And it seems like you have mistaken this thread for a d*ck riding competition

At least it is now clear what your REAL intentions for this topic was.

Originally Posted by Calliope He is not saying whether the information is right nor wrong. What he is referring to is source criticism. Don't be naive a drone and just believe whatever you are told. Think for yourself and draw your own conclusions by looking things through and verifying or falsifying the data.

I am still waiting for that answer that was peanuts to answer and check up on..... several topics....

Originally Posted by Calliope Maybe you should get that checked! Usually sexually transmitted diseases (STD) creates the tingling senses felling you're felling

You sound like someone talking from first hand experience (not very scientific btw).

[Calliope]

[QUOTE=euss;361627]PS3 is a console [edit:2] made by Sony. [edit:3]with components of IBM
etc.
Nothing wrong there, only improvements.
You mean you are incapable to validate it, even though it is explained on the very page you quote. So much for a academic mind.
[QUOTE=Calliope;361556]Are you telling me that there have not been made any corrections to the data present there ever since the Wiki was created until now?

There are only so many edits you can do to explain that X is X. Not all the Y and Z in the world can change that mathematical and physical fact. So far the page you are accusing is full of disassembly, pictures, datasheets, analyse, verify, proof, traceback, do and redo, second opinion, side angles etc. Clearly you can further n00bify sentences so they are better understood by people like you, or deepen them into other areas, but that still does not change any /fact/ of the initial documented research. It did not change your dongle, did not change your payload, did not change your firmware, did not change the pinout of the chips, never changed the handshaking protocol etc. because those are physical realities that do not change, not even after a million edits. You are welcome to correct/check my 8000 edits on wiki and verify my research, including its resource of 15K documents it is based on. Physical realities do not change with changes of perception. They stay the same. Just because the sun is now a sun and no longer a god will not change the scientific fact you will burn up like an Icarus when going in to close. Only ignorant people accuse scientific research without proof of their claims. Yet you do so in multiple topics. Actually there is way more out there then you can imagine. You have no clue about even 1/1000th of the 15K documents the wiki bases its research on, yet you claim them to be false. Its YOUR dillema, you created it, you kept it alive, you put it out into the world and you proclaim it as ultimate truth. I told you what todo, just like I told it in wiki: put your money where your mouth it and STEP UP or shut up. So far you have been falsifying without any proof, so its YOUR time to disassembly, analyse, verify, proof, traceback, do and redo, second opinion, side angles etc. I already did that on ps3devwiki, you can easily trace my steps and see where I am wrong or misguided (in your words). Yes it is. Easy as pie, or actually even easier then the square root of pi. There is nothing scientific in falsifying or looking only inside your own perception. If that is what YOU call scientific then there is really no hope in this topic. Stop wanking the greatest resource the PS3 scene ever had as if it is your ladyboy. Learn that is not ment for that. Learn how to become a real scientist instead of a wolly mammoth on a egodickride. If you want to know how, I know a very good wiki that can teach you just that

First of all you can't choose what to answer or don't in that manner taking things out of context. Secondly, if you really know all this stuff how come you haven't been able to crack the TB or create a custom firmware yet? Is it your incompetence to do so or your inability accept the fact that you can't do it? The fact remains that the scene is at a standstill and even though you are in it and have deviced the PS3DevWiki you still ain't able do it. Read my previous reply again, because you still don't get it. I don't need to prove anything to you as it is you that has something to prove here. You cannot falsify everything written in there, hell you can't even verify it for a fact as you don't have the complete knowledge of howto. If you truly did then the scene would not have been at the stage which it is. So are you lying to the scene, deluding yourself or are you simply so full of yourself that your incompetence cannot accept the fact that this scene needs all the contribution that it can receive. You do not poses the competence that it takes to move the scene forward on your own and you never will. It's people like you killing the scene because your ladyboy like ego's are killing the members of the scene. I am not here to please you or your ego, so all you c*ck riding shemales from this thread... Pull your d*cks out of each other and stop bl*wing each other and do something constructive. Right now you're acting like a bit*h along with the others. Taking my words out of context haha you're a joke at this stage. Please hide your boyfriend Blow-George under your bed again and stop acting like a litt*e bit*h. I don't really care about a munch of nerds on a website. I am not here to join your d*ck riding activities. I am here for the sole purpose of contributing to the scene. So if you want to continue bl*wing each other and smoke up your ass, while massaging your ego's then do it. But not at my expense.

[haz367]

damn..al the hate in here..its crazy...i found it funny if someone comes along trying to help, he must be trolling but nobody helping each other, looks like the info must be hidden to make profits?!

always, eacht topic about this turns into sh*t, like a bunch of kids pushing one in the corner, keep making it personal, as an outsider really..read the topic again, it start with silly remarks about quoting..c'mon guys..life and let life and maibe the crap dongles wil be free aftrerall, but it seems it is no intrest for most, and yes excuse my crappy grammar..hey i can life with it


unreal..for real

goodluck on cracking this crap, the sooner the better

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by haz367 damn..al the hate in here..its crazy...i found it funny if someone comes along trying to help, he must be trolling but nobody helping each other, looks like the info must be hidden to make profits?! always, eacht topic about this turns into sh*t, like a bunch of kids pushing one in the corner, keep making it personal, as an outsider really..read the topic again, it start with silly remarks about quoting..c'mon guys..life and let life and maibe the crap dongles wil be free aftrerall, but it seems it is no intrest for most, and yes excuse my crappy grammar..hey i can life with it unreal..for real goodluck on cracking this crap, the sooner the better

The people in this thread are not interested in cracking it. That is why they are polluting threads like this and killing the message. All they're interested in is bl*wing each other while massaging they bloated false ego's, while blowing smoke up their ars*. These people are the reason for the standstill. It's the same persons that flood the threads and stray away people from the task at hand and the end goal! They are killing the scene to profit on the dildos being sold

[mcmrc1]

pls calm down !!!! we sitting in the same boat and we all want to see a progress in this scene but these insults are like 14 year old kids who want to know who has a bigger dick...

pls work together and make this scene free 4 all....

[euss]

Originally Posted by Calliope This is not about attacking anyone, but in regards to how information is processed.

So far you have made it very clear that this topic is not on handling information but to juggle with it in requotes, state a certain value on it without proof and then dickride into a slandering trolling like a caveman that never seen a wiki.

Originally Posted by Calliope Read all the replies before you too join the d*ck riding competition in here.

I read them, including ALL edits made in the ps3devwiki since its existance. Must be peanuts to tell me which are wrong if it so peanuts to accuse people of manipulation, falsification.

Originally Posted by Calliope And the scene has been at a standstill and the current Devs have not been able to change the situation.

Standstill is perception. From where you are it is standing still, here it is in full movement. I highly recommend to dislodge your head out of your arse and start looking out open vision into the world and excuse to those unpaid contributors that are still putting coals (knowledge) into the steam locomotive (wiki).

Originally Posted by Calliope These are facts.

I am still waiting on the first answer to the actual fact of which data is falsified, which member was responsible and which data is manipulated and by whom.

Originally Posted by Calliope You never heard me say that the PS3DevWiki was entirely false nor did you hear me say that it was entirely true.

Still running in circles without answering.. not very academic.

Originally Posted by Calliope And I never attacked the members in here they started to attack me, and I simply defended myself.

You started attacking ps3devwiki, its contributors, and the way data is presented on it.

Not only am I defending it, but also asking where it can be improved. But as I don't get answers, only hollow empty trolling claims wrapped up into long talks that make my beard go greyer then it already is - this topic clrealy has no point, no goal and certainly no leader that is willing to take the money where his mouth is.

Originally Posted by Calliope And even though Euss knows much about the PS3 he cannot know everything there is to know about the PS3.

Then answer this easy question: what data is false and what data is manipulated?

Originally Posted by Calliope The same goes for the PS3DevWiki. Much of the information there can be true, but you cannot say with 100% guarantee that everything in there is true and correct for eternity.

Red was red in stoneage, still is red today, will be red in space over 1000 years too.

Originally Posted by Calliope And if you know everything there is to know in regards to the PS3, how come the scene is at a standstill, while you're in it?

You and this topic is a very good example WHY it is at a standstill.

But as told before, mind of the (limited) beholder, it is rocking seen from here.

Originally Posted by Calliope Results speak louder than words and the fact of the matter is that we are stuck!

I still see no results of my questions on your accussations/slander. So yes, you are stuck, into a mindless loop of catchphrases that would not even sell a bottle of coca cola in the desert.

Originally Posted by Calliope People are leaving the scene because of the way people are.

That is your interpretation, not based on fact, not based on academic research, not on a wiki and certainly not proven by a checked and verified edit on it.

Originally Posted by Calliope People like you e.g. that take things personally, when it's all about objectivity.

You cannot attack randomly ps3devwiki, conrobutors, developers, documenters without factual proof. THAT is a reason why many developers left the scene (proven by actual logs/interviews etc with their explained reasoning of why they stop).

Originally Posted by Calliope No one attacked anyone in here until people as you started riding my d*ck for no reason.

Clearly forgotten the other topics too?

Originally Posted by Calliope So how about you getting off my d*ck and use your resources for something constructive and practice your own advice for now.

You seem to have a preference/fetish for d|ck, as factual and academic research of your replies on this thread shows as evidence.

Originally Posted by Calliope For as for the verifying goes can you falsify everything that is stated in the Wiki?

Can you even PROVE one as to be falsified / manipulated?

Originally Posted by Calliope No you cannot, so shut it. Stop turning this into a d*ck riding competition and focus on the end goal for crying out loud!

Ps3devwiki has proven again and again its claims, page after page, edit after edit.

You still have 12,231 edits to choose from

Must be very easy to find at least one that supports your claim 'is deliberate contructed as a manipulation by evil persons grinding /your/ scene (or mind) to a halt'.