[jahmyrr]

Originally Posted by STLcardsWS Piracy affects us all.. Look at SOPA they used Piracy to try and restrict the internet.. That didnt work and now we have CISPA

Stop it. Piracy has been around LONG before any of that. You should be championing the rape of Civil Rights and not pointing the piracy finger at everyone. I HIGHLY enjoy having all my games on an HDD and not having to keep a bunch of discs lying around. I LOVE that my child doesnt have access to my expensive discs that id rather not have to replace because they are careless and dont treat them with the same gentle care I do.

If protecting the property ive legally purchased from damage and making my catalog of games more accessible is me being a "pirate" then my rights as a consumer to protect my purchases are far more pilfered than I could have imagined. Its presumptuous comments like the ones youve made that are why SOPA and CISPA are continually thrown in our faces. Lack of knowledge and pure assumption on the part of politicians, lawmakers, and the general public. Labeling an entire group of people is no different than stereotyping someone for their race, religion, economic/social status, etc, etc, etc.

[Wolfie708]

Originally Posted by STLcardsWS Piracy affects us all.. Look at SOPA they used Piracy to try and restrict the internet.. That didnt work and now we have CISPA I will say this I disagree with what is consider piracy... If i have PSone games that i own.. I dont consider downloading the same copy as piracy.. Yea i know its considered piracy.. but it simply isnt..I could prove that in court as well.. with many examples.

I'm pretty much the same. I have lots of books in paperback and hardback, and I am buggered 10 ways to hell if I am going to pay for them again for my Kindle.

[BobbyBangin]

Shouldn't a lot of these comments be moved to the piracy/anti-piracy thread?

As far as tb goes, you should ask yourself, "What would Jesus do?". He once fed 5,000 people with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread. In today's corporate world they would have called him a pirate. The fishing industry would probably have had his home raided by police and have his fish confiscated. They probably would have also started a class action lawsuit against him and try to get public sympathy to make people understand how feeding the poor is bad and how it's detrimental to their making billions.

The information should be open sourced and free to the people just as it was when they started charging people for it. On the other hand, bottled water was a genius idea. Take something that's basically free and charge people for it.

[PdimH]

Originally Posted by BobbyBangin Shouldn't a lot of these comments be moved to the piracy/anti-piracy thread? As far as tb goes, you should ask yourself, "What would Jesus do?". He once fed 5,000 people with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread. In today's corporate world they would have called him a pirate. The fishing industry would probably have had his home raided by police and have his fish confiscated. They probably would have also started a class action lawsuit against him and try to get public sympathy to make people understand how feeding the poor is bad and how it's detrimental to their making billions. The information should be open sourced and free to the people just as it was when they started charging people for it. On the other hand, bottled water was a genius idea. Take something that's basically free and charge people for it.

Man, you rocked on your comment. Coud not agree more.

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by bigo93 The entire PS3 scene is all about drama. You'll get haters and criticisers who feel that just because they couldnt do something one noone else will be able to and so just spam threads saying the person is wrong. You get people whoa are just fed up with this scene when someone posts some info and that they will be workign a little on it, regulars post that thats interesting and hope it leads to something, and then people automatically assume a new cfw is a week away, and when nothing is released they start fuming over it. This is why a lot of us believe the ps3 scene is dead. People come an go or are chased away by spoilt brats who cant wait any longer and so the devs dont want to give anything to these ungrateful retards. It happened to zadow before you, 90% of the comments people made were deconstructive rather than constructive, so he just left the forum. Dont know if he's still working on it or on irc, but that's what happens. So best thing is that if you know what you are doing and dont need help, dont post anything until you have something to release. If you need a little help make a post and see what people say, if it ends up being full of haters, forget about that post and carry on.

You're are right! I've only been here for 2 DAYS and people are already to crucify me on the cross, because they think I am Nodex or Zadow :-S How about giving new comers a break before throwing them on the bonfire or hanging people in trees KKK style! The people bxTching are not interested in progress, but in a standstill. They are the same ones that chase New Devs out when before they had a chance to settle down. It's not every hard to pin-point, whom they are as you already know this by now
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Originally Posted by sopaj96 Alot if pages ... :/ Cant even read more so will just ask.. Hows the progress ?? I think these 17+ pages is full of bull*hit and negative people... So sad :/ Hope your not effected and that you continue your work for this "awsome" people supporting you *ironic*

You're are right! I've only been here for 2 DAYS and people are already to crucify me on the cross, because they think I am Nodex or Zadow :-S How about giving new comers a break before throwing them on the bonfire or hanging people in trees KKK style! The people bxTching are not interested in progress, but in a standstill. They are the same ones that chase New Devs out when before they had a chance to settle down. It's not every hard to pin-point, whom they are as you already know this by now

[dave666]

The problems with PS3 (also other scene) is certain people want fame.


On the other hand people want to learn, like on here, and talk about how to advance the scene while others will do there best to cause problems just for the fun of it.

I dont log on much, but I do come and read. It is getting worse with these trolls ruining some good posts.

To the OP, I think you need to stop posting. Go learn about all aspects of the PS3. Then come back if you understand like some of the members here.

Then you might get some respect from the members that are more clued up. Instead of getting there backs up with crap posts.

[Calliope]

Originally Posted by devilangelari This all is a THEORY so don't be pissed at me lol Consider the possibility that the "TB dongle updates" update only the game libraries (sprx) on the firmware or on the dongle (maybe it's a dev_flash mounted like dev_blind) ? In the TB eboot you can see that it requests updated libraries like in this case 3.60 but they can masked to appear like 3.60 libraries if "TB modified the libraries" : These "libraries" are needed to run games or new games that's why TB updates them ! That part is not encrypted as you can see but if you modify anything there in an self it will ruin the encryption as a whole (maybe after all it will not ruin anything). In the ps3devwiki page you can see that TB eboots are FSELF ( fake signed elf) but someone (I can't mention his name until he gives me the permission to do , so RESPECT!) mentioned that they are recognized as FSELF (no encrypted metadata in fself when you run readself on it ) and are not true fselfs on his nature. FSELF keys are given to game developers to not compromise their "true keys" when they are creating games on the debug stage (debug eboots). When you run readself on a TB eboot there you see the "DevKit" SDK used (in which I have no info) but we could assume that there are the devkit (FSELF) keys used : And the unself tools that are available doesn't decrypt tb eboots , even in some eboots they give no errors but when you look at them on hex editor you see them encrypted in which case people should look to create new unself tools . With the theories until now you need 3 things : eboots decrypted ,updated libraries and the correct payload to patch lv2 . Only the decrypted eboots will not suffice because they request updated libraries to run new games . PS3DEVWIKI IS THE BEST !!!

Exactly! This is what I thinking in regards to my comment about Sony DevKit they're using (first page 1). Good ideas so keep them coming :-)
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Originally Posted by sopaj96 Why dont we crack the eboots instead of TB ?? Yeah we can still learn from TB but why dont we concentrate ourselfs on the eboots instead of the TB dongle and CFW :/

The secret is in the patch of RAM & lv1/lv2 and the eboots. The ability to run Fselfs. They're using the old PSJailbreak exploit again in a new way on 3.55 somehow! :-)
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Originally Posted by AlexBaka So all "information" turned out to be some old stuff? What a surprise...

The first step was to gather information that is useful to the subject and get it compiled. Second step was to look at it and analyse what it is and how can it be used and how has it been used. 3rd step is where you implement the theories you have what could work and analyse the results and approve what can be done better. But people (the usual 3) totally derailed everything and destroyed the whole thread and demotivated everyone. They're not interested in progress but keeping the scene at a standstill and massaging they're ego's with a giant dildo called TB.
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Originally Posted by <GEEK> Holy ****, @Calliope simply compiled some past information, and so many people are jumping down his/her throat. Maybe we should ONLY speak about new information, or True Blue around here from now on... which means we would only discuss TB To be honest, what s/he did is no different than what anyone writing a tutorial does, it's all prior information being shared as a collective, or any different than the 2349082349082 threads about TB that span 20+ pages. All s/he is trying to do is help. People b*tch because all the devs left, nobody wants to help, yada yada yada. Can you blame them? Look what happens when others try doing productive things for the scene. This scene IS totally f*cked up. Everyone wants news about new breakthroughs, this feature or that, but nobody wants to take the potential steps to get there. Instead everyone is stuck on cracking True Blue.

You're are right! I've only been here for 2 DAYS and people are already to crucify me on the cross, because they think I am Nodex or Zadow :-S How about giving new comers a break before throwing them on the bonfire or hanging people in trees KKK style! The people bxTching are not interested in progress, but in a standstill. They are the same ones that chase New Devs out when before they had a chance to settle down. It's not every hard to pin-point, whom they are as you already know this by now

The first step was to gather information that is useful to the subject and get it compiled. Second step was to look at it and analyse what it is and how can it be used and how has it been used. 3rd step is where you implement the theories you have what could work and analyse the results and approve what can be done better. But people (the usual 3) totally derailed everything and destroyed the whole thread and demotivated everyone. They're not interested in progress but keeping the scene at a standstill and massaging they're ego's with a giant dildo called TB

[svenmullet]

Originally Posted by Calliope Exactly! This is what I thinking in regards to my comment about Sony DevKit they're using (first page 1). Good ideas so keep them coming :-) ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* The secret is in the patch of RAM & lv1/lv2 and the eboots. The ability to run Fselfs. They're using the old PSJailbreak exploit again in a new way on 3.55 somehow! :-) ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* The first step was to gather information that is useful to the subject and get it compiled. Second step was to look at it and analyse what it is and how can it be used and how has it been used. 3rd step is where you implement the theories you have what could work and analyse the results and approve what can be done better. But people (the usual 3) totally derailed everything and destroyed the whole thread and demotivated everyone. They're not interested in progress but keeping the scene at a standstill and massaging they're ego's with a giant dildo called TB. ************* [ - Post Merged - ] ************* You're are right! I've only been here for 2 DAYS and people are already to crucify me on the cross, because they think I am Nodex or Zadow :-S How about giving new comers a break before throwing them on the bonfire or hanging people in trees KKK style! The people bxTching are not interested in progress, but in a standstill. They are the same ones that chase New Devs out when before they had a chance to settle down. It's not every hard to pin-point, whom they are as you already know this by now The first step was to gather information that is useful to the subject and get it compiled. Second step was to look at it and analyse what it is and how can it be used and how has it been used. 3rd step is where you implement the theories you have what could work and analyse the results and approve what can be done better. But people (the usual 3) totally derailed everything and destroyed the whole thread and demotivated everyone. They're not interested in progress but keeping the scene at a standstill and massaging they're ego's with a giant dildo called TB

Wow! That was helpful! Keep those innovative ideas coming!

[Piro_Maniac]

Hey Calliope can I say something to you ?
I read almost every topic that you created... Stop. Creating. Useless. Topics. Please.

Why are they useless ? Because you only bring IDEAS, not proof... Try doing something and not writing about it... And then when you got something good (It works) or bad (It doesn't work) write about it.

Please...

[EthanHawks]

Originally Posted by svenmullet Wow! That was helpful! Keep those innovative ideas coming!

Why would you continue to post **** like that when you normally try to put information that may potentially help as a response when you know damn well your response will only create DRAMA.

I would like to point out that I have now read through all 18 pages. I also would suggest cleaning the **** out and putting it back in the Technical/Coding section as it belongs there more than here.

If any of you look at this thread from the outside, you will look at this and see it looks like intentional thread derailment. On other forums, this is prohibited with bans/warnings/etc....Why not in this case?

The OP is looking into things that are relevant to helping progress the scene and is only * trying * to get a brainstorming session/conversation/think tank going.

From looking at this thread, Euss has made a lot of it worse by acting like a child.

The OP did ask you to take any issues/problems/etc elsewhere or to another thread which you/defyboy did not do so. We have ended up with about 2/3 pages of comments in relation to OP and the remainder to do with the Wiki.

Nobody can deny that Euss puts a hell of a lot of time/effort into documenting this stuff and Defyboy is putting his hand in his pocket to host the wiki without asking for community support. They deserve a Thank You.

Euss, I believe you are wise enough to understand/realize that you are in part to blame for the 16 pages of **** due to your comments. Normally, you would just say your piece and not feel the need to drag it out.

I point this out more so for @Warning s comments as you always do get involved to either debunk/confirm information provided by x,y or z.

If people are watching behind the scenes, they will KNOW the scene is not stagnant and stalled. It is bubbling along wonderfully, but.....Everyone would always like a little bit more.

With regards to the Libraries info - Yes - That is what people have already said etc and well, you all just put them down.

With that - I will leave one thought for everyone. Surely it is better to have the " scene " conversing about ideas, etc, than everyone arguing and causing drama.

#Just a thought
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Originally Posted by Piro_Maniac Hey Calliope can I say something to you ? I read almost every topic that you created... Stop. Creating. Useless. Topics. Please. Why are they useless ? Because you only bring IDEAS, not proof... Try doing something and not writing about it... And then when you got something good (It works) or bad (It doesn't work) write about it. Please...

I'm sorry, I am not coming to the OP's defense, but..............Please show us what info you have researched/collected/put together/etc....

I do understand a lot of the PS3 "scene" but proof or GTFO DOES NOT FU**in work!

Show a little faith as some of the best solutions come from brainstorming etc.

I really hope someone starts to MODERATE this thread as HAX is all about coming together and creating solutions - Or am I wrong?