[DrWho198]

Originally Posted by frankey ,it has no sense,why kakaroto doesn t ask for money

because he isn't in it for the money, and money wouldn't help.
Only time and luck can get us new keys. Since Sony now knows what they did wrong and fixed there mistake. Now the security measures are implemented correctly. Only if Sony accidentally makes a mistake in encrypting a new game and we stumble on it, then we can find the new keys. A second option would be if we find a new exploit, but that's another long shot.

The only thing you can hope for is when someone manages to do what true blue does without the need of hardware. But they probably decrypt the eboots on a console with higher fw, and found a way to dump the decrypted eboot. Making it pure piracy and most people in the scene will not support it if it's only about piracy.

Originally Posted by frankey times ago someone posted the playload of these dongles,so this person know how to extract them,but noone used these file to fight the dongles

Clearly those dumps are not complete, besides... the stuff that makes the games work probably isn't in the dongle, but in the eboots or the fw.

[brunospfc]

when this dongle CFW started working, i thought: "...this wont last for long, let me wait to a real hacking..." i waited...nothing...then i bought a dongle (ps3break, clone)...1 month after that, damn, the "real hacking" finaly got real (money wasted on ps3break).

it was a very small time of hapiness, since then, all i got was "tricks" to make some games work, no psn -> no multiplayer -> no new games, my ps3 is almost dead

what makes me mad is the FACT people said: "...we got ps3 root key, ps3 is open forever..."

hopes ? not much

[svenmullet]

I think we're at a point where it's up to sony to make the next move. I made my mind up a long time ago that I'm never buying another thing from them, because of the way they treated their users, but never say never; I'd rather be on OFW and lose the ability to do what I want than be on TB FW and... lose the ability to do what I want. So let's weigh the options:

OFW: Plays all games, allows PSN/Store/Video+music services. You're stuck there, there's no going back without a flasher. (and considering all the brick stories I read here, not an elegant solution) Free, as in costs nothing. (I don't take the cost of game discs into account, because that's a given)

3.55MFW: Plays all games (legit or copied) up till ~March 2011 release. Allows whatever you want as far as homebrew, peek/poke, linux, service mode. No sony network access and no new games.

TB: Plays the games they decide to patch. Doesn't allow anything else, including peek/poke. Service mode still usable, because it is 3.55, and you can still install any other firmware you want. Costs $60, although you can download all the games you want for "free".

I'm not a gamer, really, and could care less about the latest/greatest because to be honest, there's not really any games that interest me right now. I have no reason to update or buy a dongle, so looks like my decision is easy. Gamers have two options right now, go OFW or buy a dongle, and if that's you, maybe you should show a little morals and support those who made the games rather than those who stole a bunch of scene devs' work to make a profit enabling you to steal game devs' work. Don't go OFW to support sony; they don't deserve your support. Do it to support the devs who make the games you love so much. And to send a message to greedy underground scum who know how to advance the scene, yet chose to monetize it and add drm.

[LiteSoul]

Interesting and respectful opinion, @hellsing9 , Greetings from Argentina.

[DarkMessiah]

@ninpo5537 it's hellsing

[TwoPints]

Guys the problem here is quite simple and histrionic diatribes such as this one miss the mark entirely. The 'scene' will continue to stagnate while it is fragmented. You have the majority of PS3 owners on the latest OFW having no access to homebrew or piracy, and only the hardcore pirates or homebrew developers remain on 3.55. The only market then for homebrew developers is a sea of pirates, a community which is unlikely to be as engaged or reciprocating as a community composed of both pirates and those purely interested in homebrew (and the many who fall in between). For most people "two PS3s" is not a viable option - or people wouldn't be compelled to pirate in the first place. Homebrew development will only be worthwhile with a dedicated user and developer community, which is impossible with the current OFW/CFW fragmentation. The dongle makers will always be around until this era ends, and words will do nothing to stop them. They are empowered to continue their nebulous machinations by the same veil of protection through which CFW was made possible. To make dongles redundant, and to reunite the community and reignite the scene, the only answer is a regularly updated CFW. It's not about piracy, it is about a userbase. The halcyon days of homebrew development were only possible when everyone was in the same boat. One of those boats is falling behind because the honest seaman are jumping overboard. It needs to speed up, lest it will be comandeered by pirates of the very worst kind.

[bigo93]

Originally Posted by svenmullet I think we're at a point where it's up to sony to make the next move.

$ony already made their move, they stole otheros from all consoles when it was an advertised feature which we paid for. They hunted devs that werent even interested in piracy. They stored personal details without encryption and then tried to hide it.

This is why I am so surprised that devs and hackers are not destroying the PS3, any decent hacker would want to punish $ony by totally opening the console for everyone. But instead they just left, or as we think some sold out to dongle makers.

[klbarnes1]

Well guys, 99% of the people on here would do the same thing these dongle people do! Its just like with anything else in this world. If you have something that people want and no-on else can make it, then you would be stupid not to make money off it! -I sold all 3 of my ps3's about 6 months ago and it was the best thing I ever did! I love my 360!

[rzsose]

I have a few games from xmas collecting dust. But after the investment made in the PS2 I won't bother with a crippling solution that takes that away. Flashing is out of the question I will not risk opening it to get a SOD. So far been keeping busy on the xbox.

http://www.xcm.cc/xcm_cross_fire_converter_2.0.htm is a controller solution if the controller layout/setup on the xbox does meet your tastes.

[Nimation]

Originally Posted by klbarnes1 I sold all 3 of my ps3's about 6 months ago and it was the best thing I ever did! I love my 360!

you could have kept one. you might just miss PS3.