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Old 05-21-2012   #41
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Originally Posted by saxile View Post
Depends on where you live, in the USA it is illegal to make backups.
Ever read even a bit of the DMCA? No? I thought so.

It is legal to make a single digital back up of something your personally own. One and only one digital back up. It has to be made from the physical copy that you yourself bought.

What is illegal is actually messing with the files of the back up, like say switching out eboots.
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Old 05-21-2012   #42
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I believe the dongle and its modified eboots are against the Digital Millenium Copyright Act
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Old 05-21-2012   #43
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I believe the dongle and its modified eboots are against the Digital Millenium Copyright Act
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Well, technically if the dongle is not using any copyrighted work inside (I don't think open source counts here, but feel free to correct me), that the creators do not own, it is legal. Their firmware? Illegal due to breaking Sony's agreement through reverse engineering/exploiting/etc.
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Old 05-21-2012   #44
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Originally Posted by Cheesethief View Post
Ever read even a bit of the DMCA? No? I thought so.

It is legal to make a single digital back up of something your personally own. One and only one digital back up. It has to be made from the physical copy that you yourself bought.

What is illegal is actually messing with the files of the back up, like say switching out eboots.
Or breaking CSS, which you have to do to backup any commercial movie
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let's sue $ony and the big game companies for releasing games not compatible with TB
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let's sue $ony and the big game companies for releasing games not compatible with TB
YEAH!!!!!

Damn M$ and Nindento et al for not making games compatible with our, I mean Sony's PS3 consoles; what were they thinking!?!

It's as if they locked out the games in order that people would be forced to buy their console rather than Sony's, and thereby increase their profits!

This explains everything, consoles are nothing more than DRM devices just like these dongles!
Woah, so that means that a TB is a drm device for a drm device, that's freaky.
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This give me an idea. I should sue those jerks who sold me bunk crap with seeds when they said it was chronic.
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Originally Posted by saxile View Post
Depends on where you live, in the USA it is illegal to make backups.


Whaaat? It's perfectly legal or authorized to make backup copies of what you own. What's illegal is the unauthorized reproduction and distribution of. It's murky ground. Seeing that $ony doesn't even want you to buy used merchandise let alone backups is why we're in this mess in the first place. They've even hinted at disabling the PS4 from being able to play used games. People that go around selling bootlegs and backups is what really pisses them off. Especially public offerings of copying hard drives worth of thousands of dollars worth of games for a fraction of the cost. One thing you gotsta know if you're a pirate is that loose lips sink ships. That's why I agree with the no discussing warez policy even though I'm all for sharing material. I think as long as you're not stealing the real physical copy it shouldn't be such a big f-ing deal. Especially since most games suck anyways.
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But true-blue is being selled in countries where you have a copyright law.
You can sue them on other legal cause, like damaging your system or another cause more ellaborated.
You can't get to them, that sure. But you can sue the reseller in a country that has the copyright law.
True-blue doesn't have a presence in the other countries, its the distributors who are taking it upon themselves to import the product and sell it on their market.

It is the responsibility of the importer to make sure any product they import and sell doesn't violate any copyright laws. Sure you could sue them but you won't hurt true-blue, only the small time modchip importer who probably makes **** all money as it is.

You will remember that all this happened with the original dongle. Sony was successful in having an injunction issued to prevent ozmodchips.com from selling PSJB. Leaving them with thousands of pieces of stock they were unable to sell and almost bankrupted them. This wouldn't have worried PSJB at all, they still made alot of cash selling the stock to ozmodchips.
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