[Pedroc1999]

Originally Posted by JustThatDude Ok so what you are saying is that the CFW we would be able to make would be just a CFW that has the " install package files" option but can't actually install package files that aren't signed due to the missing keys? So basicly what your saying is the only thing we would be able to tamper with is the way the xmb looks? Also why couldn't we make a new FSM FW so we can downgrade because back then we had those dongles and they did the trick of putting us in FSM.

You have a firmware that allows you to install things that dont use Peek and Poke> Backup managers need peek and poke or else they will not work>the keys just enable the peek and poke function

[DEFAULTDNB]

No they dont.

Keys allow apps to be signed to run on X firmware.

Peek and poke aka syscalls : allows backup managers to load games.

NOT RELATED.

on 3.55 is an eboot was signed with 4.11 key it would load via peek n poke within 3.55 cfw

on 4.11 you can mod it to have install pkg option, but no pkg will run as we cant sign them. even if it did run, 4.11 would need to have peek and poke remapped/rejiggled to work. afaik.

[JustThatDude]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB Exactly right. I only mentioned syscalls as an alternate method for downgrading (if DH MAD method is correct), but its useful to know that syscalls would be usless in the FSM environment. LV2diag would just need signing for 3.60+ to get out afaik.

What would we need to sign with? With keys?


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[DEFAULTDNB]

I think so.

I'm sure geohot made the first LV2diag.self when he nabbed the metldr keys.

[JustThatDude]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB I think so. I'm sure geohot made the first LV2diag.self when he nabbed the metldr keys.

So right now we are ****ed in the ass by sony locking us out of the lv2diag.self. I will read more on syscalls and lv2diag.self.


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[DEFAULTDNB]

Keep in touch and update us with your findings

[JustThatDude]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB Keep in touch and update us with your findings

Will do thank you for your help last night. Stayed up till 4:30 just reading up on the wiki so my knowledge is already far more great then it was about the ps3. Once again thank you and once im finished with three hours of lessons I'll hop right back on that wiki.


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[JonahUK]

peek and poke is not necessary for backups and/or install packages. It is also not required for managers to run.

[JustThatDude]

Originally Posted by DEFAULTDNB Keep in touch and update us with your findings

Hey do you know where that MAD Downgrade is I want to look into the files. Also do you know how to view files of a Official Sony Released .PUP preferably 4.11.

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by JustThatDude Hey do you know where that MAD Downgrade is I want to look into the files. Also do you know how to view files of a Official Sony Released .PUP preferably 4.11.

To see the files of a .PUP you need fairfl0w tools.
Regarding MAD downgrade, i will advice that you don't go for it.