[DrWho198]

Originally Posted by Brenza tb payload simply allow 3.55 to run most of the istructions of 4.11 sdk but it can't decrypt 4.11 eboot kado release some eboot encrypted with their own key (they decrypt the original eboot and re-encrypt them with a new key), if they change the key like with 2.5 and 2.6 payload we have to crack their new one payload

It makes sense what you are saying, but no one knows the details yet. For now it's all guessing. Besides, HT has to know how to decrypt the original eboot's before they can even try to get them to work on 3.55. We'll see once naehrwert finishes his work, that might clear up some stuff.

But I'm convinced that Sony will block this trickery if they find out how to do it. The past has thought us that Sony's dev's aren't always as smart as the scene's dev's. And they use the Scene to find there holes. If it wasn't for the scene then the security in the PS4 and PS-Vita would probably still have the same holes as the PS-2 had. And the good old TIFF exploit would probably still work too :D

[zecoxao]

the day which @euss told me about @naehrwert (and that he and @CrashSerious were extremely reliable) fast forwards to my head at the speed of light the moment i see this...

And now i believe...

Summer is coming folks, better get ready to get some gifts cause these guys will deliver. Maybe earlier :D

[/toto67]

Originally Posted by qlum ..., the hate drm dongles get it has brought people piracy of the newest games.

newest games, did i miss something ?!?

[1nsomniac]

I went legit with my PS3 a few days ago so this is of no use to me now but im still glad people are working on it & trying to help the scene. It's a good read too & hope they keep up the good work.

[KDSBest]

Originally Posted by DrWho198 Nice work, and good luck. But to be honest, I'm pretty sure this will be the end of New games working on CFW. Once he figures out how TB does it and releases the information, Sony will be there too to fix the hole. And all the people who where against TB but still wanted the technology for free will cry as once again they have nothing. Only the games released this far. Good thing? Yes, as I'm a strong believer of open knowledge and I'm against the large amount of money that TB makes of it. But it has a dark truth that it will force people to either buy a second console or forget HB completely.

TB just dump decrypted eboots with a ref tool and encrypt them with the 3.55 keys. Their CFW just updates functionalities to make higher firmware games run. I guess they dump the higher firmwares with a ref tool too and add those functionalities to the CFW. Which should be a) highly illegal and b) is not easy patchable by sony.

So you guys can pirate all games if a free version is out. -.- That is a reason why I don't work on TB reversing. They even use a XOR for their command obfuscation. -.- XOR is the worst encryption exists what the hell do you mean with they even use ^^. Don't get me wrong, this is not hard to find out. You did a great job and we know a little by IRC. *thumps up*. It's progress still a long way to go. As far as I know naehrwert he will make it to the end and has the needed skill. Keep your head up.

Oh man there are fanboys in this forum. It is unbelievable.

Originally Posted by DrWho198 It makes sense what you are saying, but no one knows the details yet. For now it's all guessing. Besides, HT has to know how to decrypt the original eboot's before they can even try to get them to work on 3.55. We'll see once naehrwert finishes his work, that might clear up some stuff. But I'm convinced that Sony will block this trickery if they find out how to do it. The past has thought us that Sony's dev's aren't always as smart as the scene's dev's. And they use the Scene to find there holes. If it wasn't for the scene then the security in the PS4 and PS-Vita would probably still have the same holes as the PS-2 had. And the good old TIFF exploit would probably still work too :D

If you look out of the window and you see water drops hitting the glass. You guess it is raining out there. Maybe someone throws precisly water to your windows, but 99% it is raining out there. If you watch out of the window and see it rain. You guess it is raining outside. Our guess how TB make the higher FW games run on 3.55 TB CFW is as precise as your guess when water hits the windows that it is raining.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by KDSBest So you guys can pirate all games if a free version is out.

Not everyone that owns TB is a Pirate or not everyone that wants a free version is a Pirate.

Cracking TB has nothing to do with allowing piracy, it is all about taking away the TB devs chance to rip people off.

It kinda sucks, that you would rather stop a tiny bit of piracy, than stop the scum bags making money of code that isn't theirs.

[Pockets69]

Originally Posted by KDSBest TB just dump decrypted eboots with a ref tool and encrypt them with the 3.55 keys. Their CFW just updates functionalities to make higher firmware games run. I guess they dump the higher firmwares with a ref tool too and add those functionalities to the CFW. Which should be a) highly illegal and b) is not easy patchable by sony. So you guys can pirate all games if a free version is out. -.- That is a reason why I don't work on TB reversing. They even use a XOR for their command obfuscation. -.- XOR is the worst encryption exists what the hell do you mean with they even use ^^. Don't get me wrong, this is not hard to find out. You did a great job and we know a little by IRC. *thumps up*. It's progress still a long way to go. As far as I know naehrwert he will make it to the end and has the needed skill. Keep your head up. Oh man there are fanboys in this forum. It is unbelievable. If you look out of the window and you see water drops hitting the glass. You guys it is raining out there. Maybe someone throws precisly water to your windows, but 99% it is raining out there. So always you watch out of the window and see it rain. You guess it is raining outside. This precise is our guess how TB make the higher FW games run on 3.55 TB CFW.

Ahah Word bro i have heard they got another method of obtaining those eboots, which doesn't require the cleverness we are using and that you posted up there, i need to talk with @cfw prophet about that, regarding their obfuscation well XORing stuff is hardly an encryption, but as naehrwert posted on his blog they are paranoid as hell obfuscating the VM
we shall have a talk tomorrow :D

and thanks for all the help @KDSBest

[KDSBest]

Originally Posted by Pockets69 Ahah Word bro i have heard they got another method of obtaining those eboots, which doesn't require the cleverness we are using and that you posted up there, i need to talk with @cfw prophet about that, regarding their obfuscation well XORing stuff is hardly an encryption, but as naehrwert posted on his blog they are paranoid as hell obfuscating the VM we shall have a talk tomorrow :D and thanks for all the help @KDSBest

Normaly I am very well informed what cfw tries and so on. Currently he got alittle left behind because of Diablo 3 but this will change sooner or later. (Don't get mad cfwprophet ^^).

They have kill code in their dongles. Of course they are paranoid. If I steal money from the scene and let the donkeys pay me money for my product build out of stolen money. I would be paranoid too ^^.

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Not everyone that owns TB is a Pirate or not everyone that wants a free version is a Pirate. Cracking TB has nothing to do with allowing piracy, it is all about taking away the TB devs chance to rip people off. It kinda sucks, that you would rather stop a tiny bit of piracy, than stop the scum bags making money of code that isn't theirs.

I know both sides of the medal. If I can help anyone with TB reversing and so on, I will do. You can ask anyone, if I get asked nicely I nearly 100% give a precise answer. Maybe an I know it but don't want to tell you. Some other devs will guide you in wrong directions. I never do such a crap. BUT I don't work on my own on TB reversing. I am working on some things other already did but don't share with me. I want to have them, but I guess I won't share them too. We will see.

[HulkWogan]

The whole moral code bs is a joke now, so many developers are unwilling to partake in ps3 hacking because they are concerned by people being able to pirate software? Give me a break.

The wii and Xbox scene flourishes and shares knowledge on the basis that the user should/will choose the right decision to buy games and only backup to safeguard their investment, pirates havent hindered Microsoft or Nintendo's progress this generation so why are we worried about sony?

I really hope something comes from this and honestly not necessarily for me as I'm not too bothered about ps3 anymore, but this can be a big f*ck you to everyone who had the knowledge but didn't care to benefit the scene.

[KDSBest]

Originally Posted by HulkWogan The whole moral code bs is a joke now, so many developers are unwilling to partake in ps3 hacking because they are concerned by people being able to pirate software? Give me a break. The wii and Xbox scene flourishes and shares knowledge on the basis that the user should/will choose the right decision to buy games and only backup to safeguard their investment, pirates havent hindered Microsoft or Nintendo's progress this generation so why are we worried about sony? I really hope something comes from this and honestly not necessarily for me as I'm not too bothered about ps3 anymore, but this can be a big f*ck you to everyone who had the knowledge but didn't care to benefit the scene.

I know what you mean. I am pissed at ALOT people for not sharing their knowledge not even in private and I would never leak other peoples work. They even point me in the wrong direction, which makes it even worse. I got no stuff which I didn't already released. I am working on some stuff but I won't be able to release it. I don't care Sony's progress or market shares, but I care them hunting down hacker. Sony got what they wanted.