[Benzonia]

I just discovered that RetroArch is not compatible with previous savestates of its earlier emulators. This seems to be a pretty significant problem in my mind.

For example, previous versions of FCEU used a savestate file extension of .fc1, .fc2, .fc3, etc for each save state. SNESNext used .001, .002, etc for its savestates. However, RetroArch now uses .state1, .state2, etc for all savestates across all emulators. I didn't think that was a problem until I tried renaming my previous savestates to the new file extension, hoping it'd work...

It totally doesn't work, they aren't compatible. RetroArch can't even load the SNES savestates, and the NES ones seem to load what appears to be a screenshot of the savestate but not in its entirety.

This is a major problem for me, as I have invested hundreds of hours across many different games that I will be losing if I can't port these savestates over. I'm hoping the compatibility will be implemented in future releases or else I'll be stuck using the older versions of the emulators just so that I can access my saves.

[gDrive]

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[Squarepusher2]

Originally Posted by Benzonia I just discovered that RetroArch is not compatible with previous savestates of its earlier emulators. This seems to be a pretty significant problem in my mind. For example, previous versions of FCEU used a savestate file extension of .fc1, .fc2, .fc3, etc for each save state. SNESNext used .001, .002, etc for its savestates. However, RetroArch now uses .state1, .state2, etc for all savestates across all emulators. I didn't think that was a problem until I tried renaming my previous savestates to the new file extension, hoping it'd work... It totally doesn't work, they aren't compatible. RetroArch can't even load the SNES savestates, and the NES ones seem to load what appears to be a screenshot of the savestate but not in its entirety. This is a major problem for me, as I have invested hundreds of hours across many different games that I will be losing if I can't port these savestates over. I'm hoping the compatibility will be implemented in future releases or else I'll be stuck using the older versions of the emulators just so that I can access my saves.

Will not happen for several reasons -

1) SNES9x Next is a heavily customized version of SNES9x that has gone through many changes on a monthly basis - including the savestate format. At this point, it's not meant to be backwards compatible with any version's savestates.

2) FCEUmm is different to FCEUX and most likely uses different savestates.

I could eventually look into a way to preserve savestate compatibility with SNES9x 1.53 - but that would mean a lot of code backtracking that I don't really have time for at this stage since I want to use that time for lots of new cores/ports.

Alternatively, I could port SNES9x 1.53 to PS3/360 - but honestly, there is a reason why I made a heavily customized version of it in the first place - a lot of games will not reach fullspeed on it by now, so there's no point really to including that.

Also, I might save you some time - VBA Next's savestates will not be compatible with VBA-M/VBA either. VBA-M and SNES9x needed to be heavily altered for speed reasons. Either I release 'zero-effort' ports and performance will absolutely suck on PS3/360, or I release customized versions where most games reach fullspeed.

[Benzonia]

Originally Posted by Squarepusher2 Will not happen for several reasons - 1) SNES9x Next is a heavily customized version of SNES9x that has gone through many changes on a monthly basis - including the savestate format. At this point, it's not meant to be backwards compatible with any version's savestates. 2) FCEUmm is different to FCEUX and most likely uses different savestates. I could eventually look into a way to preserve savestate compatibility with SNES9x 1.53 - but that would mean a lot of code backtracking that I don't really have time for at this stage since I want to use that time for lots of new cores/ports. Alternatively, I could port SNES9x 1.53 to PS3/360 - but honestly, there is a reason why I made a heavily customized version of it in the first place - a lot of games will not reach fullspeed on it by now, so there's no point really to including that. Also, I might save you some time - VBA Next's savestates will not be compatible with VBA-M/VBA either. VBA-M and SNES9x needed to be heavily altered for speed reasons. Either I release 'zero-effort' ports and performance will absolutely suck on PS3/360, or I release customized versions where most games reach fullspeed.

Ah, well thanks for that explanation. I think you made the right call. Sucks for me, but probably the better decision for everyone in the end.

Maybe someday I'll save all my savestates as individual battery-backup game saves, and then load them over that way.

Again, thanks for all this hard work! Much appreciated.

[zunk]

I don't understand how to change core.

I go into settings and choose a default one, say FCEUmm. I quit Retroarch and start it up again and it's still prboom. I go into settings again and it says FCEUmm. But prboom on the mail screen. Every time.

It also says you can change core when you're in a game by pressing R3+L3 but I have no prboom compatible game at the moment to try that with.

It's something I don't really grasp. Can anyone help me out?

[pete_uk]

Originally Posted by zunk I don't understand how to change core. I go into settings and choose a default one, say FCEUmm. I quit Retroarch and start it up again and it's still prboom. I go into settings again and it says FCEUmm. But prboom on the mail screen. Every time. It also says you can change core when you're in a game by pressing R3+L3 but I have no prboom compatible game at the moment to try that with. It's something I don't really grasp. Can anyone help me out?

Press O until you get back to the rom selection menu after selecting the core you want. Then quit and reload.

If not, Heres the Doom1 shareware version: http://www.mediafire.com/?81hiox1lqtq5o8v
Just extract it all together and select doom1.wad from the rom screen

[Squarepusher2]

Originally Posted by Benzonia Ah, well thanks for that explanation. I think you made the right call. Sucks for me, but probably the better decision for everyone in the end. Maybe someday I'll save all my savestates as individual battery-backup game saves, and then load them over that way. Again, thanks for all this hard work! Much appreciated.

I will look at making SNES9x Next savestate-compatible with SNES9x 1.53.
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Originally Posted by zunk I don't understand how to change core. I go into settings and choose a default one, say FCEUmm. I quit Retroarch and start it up again and it's still prboom. I go into settings again and it says FCEUmm. But prboom on the mail screen. Every time. It also says you can change core when you're in a game by pressing R3+L3 but I have no prboom compatible game at the moment to try that with. It's something I don't really grasp. Can anyone help me out?

I'll include a startup menu for the next release where you can choose a core at first startup just to make this a bit easier.

It should save the default core you've selected to the config file if you exit the application through the XMB though.

[nekuz]

btw not to sound bothersome but that 2 player error is not just me right ? cause my bro keeps saying make 2 player work :P and i cant make it work till you update it right square? What i mean is i cant make it work on my own right, i need to wait for the update ?

[Squarepusher2]

Originally Posted by nekuz btw not to sound bothersome but that 2 player error is not just me right ? cause my bro keeps saying make 2 player work :P and i cant make it work till you update it right square? What i mean is i cant make it work on my own right, i need to wait for the update ?

Just had a look at Genesis Plus GX - you're right - 2 players is broken. Will fix it up.

I could put out a new maintenance release by the end of this week.

[nekuz]

Originally Posted by Squarepusher2 Just had a look at Genesis Plus GX - you're right - 2 players is broken. Will fix it up. I could put out a new maintenance release by the end of this week.

Thanks can tell u how much i appreciate it ! i can tell my bro that the fix will be soon :D i love the fast fix and comment reading by you :D
This is the kind of emulator and coders we need !