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Old 06-07-2012   #11
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Personally I would NEVER use silver based conductive paste in a device that is known/prone to leak it on the motherboard when standing vertical.

My advice: use Arctic MX4, it is non metallic, has a high lifetime, good conductivity, works great and does not give you problems if it ever leaks.

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/th...g-und-20g.html
I have never had a problem with silver, but next time I need paste I going to give mx4 a shot.
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Old 06-07-2012   #12
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I actually agree with @euss . Its better not using conductive paste in case you spill or mess up like i did the first time putting to much! It squashed out when i closed it, so i had to re-open and clean up. Bottom line is not to attempt fixes when you are drunk
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Old 06-07-2012   #13
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Originally Posted by euss View Post
Personally I would NEVER use silver based conductive paste in a device that is known/prone to leak it on the motherboard when standing vertical.

My advice: use Arctic MX4, it is non metallic, has a high lifetime, good conductivity, works great and does not give you problems if it ever leaks.

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/th...g-und-20g.html
Its been pointed out many time that the Artic Silver Thermal Compound is the best for repairing PS3 and 360
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I actually agree with @euss . Its better not using conductive paste in case you spill or mess up like i did the first time putting to much! It squashed out when i closed it, so i had to re-open and clean up. Bottom line is not to attempt fixes when you are drunk
Thats why You put it on "Evenly" so it won't spill over :P
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I have never had a problem with my PS3 or my 360 while using Artic Silver and thats all I use, And 360s are made to stand vertical :P
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Old 06-07-2012   #14
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You have to know I have even seen the original paste that Sony / Asus puts on it leak on the motherboard. It has good reason that I state not to use metal based. The differences between silver and carbon based are minimal, although carbon has a higher lifespan as it bonds more to the electrolytes.

Also, because I work with very extreme cooling in alot of cases (e.g. Vapochill with double stage compressor for extreme cooling in the -30'C to 4'C range) I have to be very picky about my conductive paste, because it will be used 50 times beyond designed specifications. So in my 40+ years of experience I end up with the slogun: "what is good enough for NASA in outerspace /might/ be good enough for me".

Back to PS3: not only the paste on top of the heatspreader is drying over time, but also underneath it. Although I would not recommend it to everyone, the daring people with enough experience might even replace the paste underneath (RSX comes off quite easily when warmed a little, the CellBE is glued U-shaped, there are some pictures of it on PS3devwiki.com on the CellBE page).
Ofcourse when you want to replace that, you obviously cannot use silverbased, only carbon based e.g Arctic MX4.
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You have to know I have even seen the original paste that Sony / Asus puts on it leak on the motherboard. It has good reason that I state not to use metal based. The differences between silver and carbon based are minimal, although carbon has a higher lifespan as it bonds more to the electrolytes.

Also, because I work with very extreme cooling in alot of cases (e.g. Vapochill with double stage compressor for extreme cooling in the -30'C to 4'C range) I have to be very picky about my conductive paste, because it will be used 50 times beyond designed specifications. So in my 40+ years of experience I end up with the slogun: "what is good enough for NASA in outerspace /might/ be good enough for me".
Thats because sony used the cheapest paste available Silver is still better overall. In my opinion (Still no leaks)
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Phobya hegrease is still much better than both artic silver 5 and mx-4 and mx-4 is better than as5
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This is not a pissing contest of silver vs nonsilver (there are boards that JUST do that, discuss 1/50th of a degree difference that gets won by marmite and toothpaste LMAO), if you want to use Silver, by all means do, just spare me the crying (or requotes how wrong I am) etc. I have done my homework ages ago, far beyond normal limits.

As to guides: there are million of guides, half of them wrong too, but with consoles in total using 1/9th of what my CPU alone has too evaporate, it is like improving a tricycle by putting rubberbands on the tires.
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Found this http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eytRmdh...?v=eytRmdhl4oc
I hope that's the correct way of applying the paste
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just put a thin line down the middle of the heatspeaders (the top of the cpu and gpu), a dot in the middle will also work, or spreading very thin layer with a razor blade, it's hard to go wrong putting thermal paste on unless you use to much.
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Thanks! I just hope that that's the problem! If not then I won't be able to play assassin's creed or god of war anymore !


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