[stuck?]

Regardless of how silly and backwards Canada can be sometimes, it's still good to live here.

and backups are legal here Although, if Harper has his way, we'll be a clone of the U.S.A. soon.

[moggpogi]

Originally Posted by mcmrc1 the scene is only alive who payed money for it and that is not the clue behind such a scene....

nahhh, for now the scene is all about cloning and cracking true blue...

[jennys]

Originally Posted by stuck? Regardless of how silly and backwards Canada can be sometimes, it's still good to live here. and backups are legal here .

I also like to visit Canada time to time. Indeed backups and selling chips, etc ... is legal. Canada is one of the only developed English speaking countries that allows backups. They are also very tolerant for certain plants you inhale.

[fromzero]

Originally Posted by jennys Okay, so the pirates (Trueblue) steal code from other authors (some of them pirates also) to help make their product and the author of this news post is stealing the stolen code to figure out how the TB works (stealing as he doesn't have permission or the rights to disassemble and use the code. I know, hackers will hack - most don't care about licenses, rights or have morals). Click here to see full text The only difference I see here is that the second person pirating the TB code isn't or hasn't mentioned if the end result will require a blank Dongle (like the original days) or if it will be totally free software (if it requires a Dongle you'll have to make your own or buy one, but hopefully it will work with the PSP!!!). Point being the only difference is the fact that TB costs money (trust me, I don't want one). Both parties are stealing from someone. Also from what I understand the TB code isn't 100% stolen and if a Dongle is required for a free solution then it does indeed require hardware therefore TrueBlue also designed the hardware required which is not an easy task. The recent discovery of the Virtual Machine leads me to believe some sort of delivery device (dongle) will be required for any free solution, but I could be totally wrong about that. If this does indeed lead to a free solution I believe that proper credit to the TrueBlue Team for creating the code they actually created (and Dongle, if necessary) is required. I also think that TrueBlue should give credit to any code used, but if we do not give credit for stealing from them regardless if what we're stealing is already stolen then we are no better then them in that regard. Also remember that using free code in your own work and charging for it is allowed depending on the license it's been published under; if any and some license do not require to even mention the author of the code being used). So yes, I believe that people should give proper credit for TrueBlue doing what no one else could at the time - that is if people are man enough to admit their pirating code from pirates to use more then likely pirated games as the only reason for the TB is to play backups (which are illegal in most countries) and pirated games (the pirating part could lead to a whole other debate so I will leave it at that). --- I'm new here so please don't throw my question out of the window because of that fact or the fact I have really no posts as doing so makes no sense as someone new is capable of having an opinion and should be able to share it without being judged for just being new. That's just immature. Thanks for listening (reading). Jennys!

Why would it need a dongle? When psgroove came out it was great to use your own dongle (i used an ipod and a sansa) but it was later patched into the firmware.

About you saying that TB did what no one else could... I'm pretty sure that Uncharted 3 and Battlefield 3 eboots are proof enough that you're wrong. How quickly we forget that those eboots may have been releases to proove something. Perhaps to a hardware manufacturer? Duplex released the first patches and then moved to psn games which still made us happy. Perhaps its the same releaser that is in both groups? Either way it seems as if the newer keys may be out there but being withheld. Probably to prevent Sony from releasing new keys.

[Pockets69]

If you dont mind me asking how do you know this? What work of Grafs do you know to being used, his work on the HV? Did Graf do any work on 3.56+?

Yes his work on the hypervisor is what allows most of this, its not pos 3.56 (and he did some work on pos 3.56) trueblue is 3.55 and it will always be 3.55...

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by Pockets69 Yes his work on the hypervisor is what allows most of this, its not pos 3.56 (and he did some work on pos 3.56) trueblue is 3.55 and it will always be 3.55...

Hope you are right.

[jennys]

Originally Posted by Pockets69 Yes his work on the hypervisor is what allows most of this, its not pos 3.56 (and he did some work on pos 3.56) trueblue is 3.55 and it will always be 3.55...

We won't know until the code for the TB is dumped. Until then please don't state speculation as fact as spreading misinformation is never good for any scene.

[Pockets69]

^^ IT IS NOT SPECULTAION FOR ****S SAKE, i can see you have no more to resort too, so i ll just leave it to this, Graf Chokolo's code is used on that dongle, you would know it if you knew a bit about his inner workings.

last post regarding this subject.

[DrWho198]

@ElSalvatore : First of all, let me state that I'm neither for or against True Blue. I didn't really want to go so much off topic in this thread, but since you are attacking me as if I'm a nobrainer then so be it.

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Personally I don't even care about them asking money for the dongle they made since they actually did SOME of the development. However I am totally against the fact that they included suicide code, ask a ridiculous amount of money for the device and give no credit to anyone who's code/research they used. That makes me PRO hacking the TB. Come to think of it, it might even be better for them not giving credit since the devs who they should credit to probably don't want to aid in the piracy.

However, of all the people who are cheering here for the TB being hacked, most of them are just cheering for them being able to play downloaded games. If you are honestly saying that you only want to play your bought games, then let's just leave it with that. Just understand that MOST people aren't so honest about there motives.

Apparently you took that quote as a personal attack which wasn't my purpose. All I'm saying is that the threads getting the most attention are the ones about getting backups to run. Something that you wouldn't see in a healthy scene.

As a personal message to you, I'm sorry I offended you. And I as well as you don't have the money for a second PS3 so I do understand the need for a solution in that area.

bottom line, TB has no honor and is a rotten egg... but killing them won't save the scene

[ElSalvatore]

@DrWho198
Sounds good. Let's leave it to that. :D

But I really hope that some of the code of the TB might enlighten the devs a bit. As I said: I hope. xD