[hellsing9]

His ego betrayed him, please when he returns and another infraction appears, do some donations in order to avoid idiotic behaviour from his part

@svenmullet awesome song = Faith no more xD

[Warning]

Originally Posted by Persian McLovin So it is indeed true...money is the root of all evil.

He worked his ass off for multiMAN.
Even if he is making some money off it now.
Why is that such a problem.
He deserves that and so much more.
Silly thing to be fighting over.
Showtime and multiMAN are the 2 most important
applications on my ps3.
It's like being mad at Thomas Edison for making
a profit off the light bulb.

Anyway just a opinion. No need to yell at me

[hellsing9]

Originally Posted by Warning He worked his ass off for multiMAN. Even if he is making some money off it now. Why is that such a problem. He deserves that and so much more. Silly thing to be fighting over. Showtime and multiMAN are the 2 most important applications on my ps3. It's like being mad at Thomas Edison for making a profit off the light bulb. Anyway just a opinion. No need to yell at me

And?, he pays your bills?.
I won't deny what he done, but i don't like double speech (From his side) plus trolling and step down from being a Mod on his own section.
He is making money = Fine. I hope he makes more money and buy a new car or an opinion.
Because his behaviour is way too *erratic* for not to say..stupid.

[TheEvilInside]

Originally Posted by svenmullet I can't speak for all drm-dongle haters, but I will say this; Myself, personally, I get a bit pissed off when I see people making up the most outlandish, ridiculous reasons to defend this thing. I think if you do a bit of soulsearching, you'll come to the conclusion that really, the only reason you love this stupid dongle so much is because you think you got a good deal; $60 for 100+ games which would cost $6000 to buy legit. You don't care about the right/wrong aspect of it, or what it does for or against the "scene", you just want games. And there's a word for that: "selfish". When presented with a predicament like we're all facing here in the "PS3 scene", an ethical "gamer" would either a) update their console to play new games (which they buy) b) buy another machine for OFW use This is ethical because it benefits everyone who matters- The game developers, because you're buying their games, you, because you are getting what you want and not harming anyone else, and grudgingly, Sony, because they do actually deserve to make a profit on their own console. If they didn't make a profit on consoles, they'd stop making them, right? So what does TB do to the scene? It promises gamers the ability to play new games on their PS3 without updating to the latest firmware, and yes, it delivers exactly that. So how ethical is it? Who benefits, and who is harmed? Well, the only people who benefit in any way is TB and people who use it. TB sells a $5 piece of hardware for $60 to warez kiddies who don't give a crap about the scene and just wantz to haz free gamez. The developers of the games make nothing, Sony makes nothing, and the biggest loser of all is the hacking scene itself. In case I come across as a "white hat", let me assure you, that couldn't be further from the truth. I just don't pay for piracy, and don't think anyone else should either. TB is the AIDS that is killing the scene. As far as I can tell, enabling fselfs on the PS3 can be done with some trivial patches. *Everything* else in their CFW/the dongle/their eboots/etc. is obfuscation, security, and DRM. We know how to accomplish exactly what they're doing, other than their source of the game eboots. (and it's not hard to speculate on that either) So why do we get "so worked up" over this? Well, it's like watching a dog lick the hand of a man who's beating it to death.

Are you bloody serious? How on earth does TrueBlue harm the scene? You anti-dongle folks are hilarious! TrueBlue does absolutely no harm to the scene. Does it prevent you guys from releasing homebrew, from creating new exploits, from furthering CFW? No. Last time I checked if you decide not to use TrueBlue, you still have an open system.

So how on earth does TrueBlue harm the scene in anyway? If TrueBlue harms the scene, then so does Apple and Microsoft. Ya that's a pretty stupid thing to say right? That's because your logic is extremely stupid.

If you don't use TB can you still run homebrew? Can you still run linux? Can you still develop homebrew on your machine? Can you still exploit the system? Yes you can. So how on earth does TB do any harm when you can still do everything you have been able to do before?

Hell even on TrueBlue you can still run homebrew. So I fail to see how TB is harming the scene.

Likewise if you say that TB is harming the scene because of piracy, I'm gonna die from laughter! Piracy has no effect on any console scene. Hell the 360 scene is thriving like mad right now and it has a crap load of piracy in it.

But you know what is damaging the scene? People like you who are making excuses for developers who aren't furthering the scene. You all need a scapegoat to justify why there's hardly any development in this dieing scene and so you use TrueBlue. When it's you developers who are killing the scene because you don't release anything, you don't share information, and you constantly come up with excuses.

Likewise, WHY ON EARTH do you guys even care about piracy effecting Sony? When it doesn't even effect them to begin with. What has Sony ever done for you? Last time I checked they have done nothing but screw us over at every turn. So why should we feel bad, morally when it comes to piracy? Likewise if you honestly think piracy is killing the gaming industry, you really need to get your head examined. EVERY platform has piracy and yet it's thriving. Piracy has existed in the gaming industry since it's inception. PS1, PS2, Xbox, Xbox360, PSP, N64, GameCube, Nintendo Wii, Nintendo DS, PC, etc, etc. All have piracy in some form.

Like I said the 360 scene has a **** load of piracy and the 360 is thriving like mad. Likewise so is the scene.

So quit using TrueBlue as an excuse for this dieing scene and blame the real culprits - the developers who are using TB as an excuse to say the scene is dieing because they refuse to release things, share information, etc.

EDIT: I mean seriously, this is the only scene that blames a dongle that creates piracy, for it's downfall. When every other scene has piracy and you can either do it for free, or you have to pay for, but yet they are thriving. The 360 scene requires you to pay for piracy and it's still thriving both in homebrew, development, and even in the piracy aspect. Likewise the Wii scene is thriving, the NDS scene is thriving, etc, etc. EVERY scene that has piracy in it is still thriving, and yet this scene isn't thriving. Why is that? It sure as hell isn't because of some device. It's because of the DEVELOPERS. Every other scene has developers that are maintaining it. This one doesn't. So quit creating a scapegoat and actually blame the real culprits - the developers.

Now hate me all you want, but I'm not gonna sit here and use a simple device as a scapegoat when I know who the real culprits are. There isn't any releases because the developers aren't doing anything. Hence why the only activity is in the piracy scene. That's because new things are coming out for that. How do you fix that? You get the developers off their ass. If they don't wanna do that, then that's fine. But don't sit there and say "oh it's because of TrueBlue and piracy." - BULL****. Every other console scene proves you wrong.

[GregoryRasputin]

Another dumb member that thinks its about piracy, why can't these idiots read

[TheEvilInside]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Another dumb member that thinks its about piracy, why can't these idiots read

I covered everything. Sorry you can't read. But go on genius, what's the real reason?

[malex]

I don't see any problem with deank making money off his work, yet it seems the problems are personal. I haven't had any contact with him, so I really can't say what type of dude he is. I do know that unlike with the TB code stealing-DRM imposing idiots, I would rather get along with him... as long as he is not some bipolar psycho.

[TheEvilInside]

Originally Posted by malex I don't see any problem with deank making money off his work, yet it seems the problems are personal. I haven't had any contact with him, so I really can't say what type of dude he is. I do know that unlike with the TB code stealing-DRM imposing idiots, I would rather get along with him... as long as he is not some bipolar psycho.

Neither do I. Dean coded the entire application himself. The only other things in his app that aren't his are simply redirects to other homebrew. Well besides Cobra's stuff now. So considering Dean coded everything up himself with the exception of Cobra's stuff, it's his right to charge for it. Anyone who thinks otherwise, needs to get a grip on reality.

When someone codes something, they have EVERY right to charge for it.

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin Another dumb member that thinks its about piracy, why can't these idiots read

Also one more thing, if you guys spent more time actually developing homebrew, and other things instead of *****ing about TB, this scene would be thriving.

You guys should either put up or shut up. You should follow the example of Dean, Rebug, and the showtime developer. Stop *****ing about TB and simply work on your respective projects. Funny how the people who are actually releasing things in this scene are the ones who haven't said a thing about TB.

One last thing - guys act like you can't have the best of both worlds. Last time I check (and I own a TB dongle so I know I can do it.) I can easily reflash my system and go back to 3.55 CFW such as Kamew or OtherOS++. So again I fail to see how TB is ruining the scene. With a simple reflash I can get EVERYTHING this scene has to offer. It's not like TB has a check in place that completely prevents you from removing their FW.

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by TheEvilInside I covered everything. Sorry you can't read. But go on genius, what's the real reason?

You didn't cover the forced DRM, the DRM that isn't forced on any other scene.

Edit:
Tone down the ass hole attitude, or you wont have an attitude on the forum to use.

[TheEvilInside]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin You didn't cover the forced DRM, the DRM that isn't forced on any other scene.

How on earth is it forced DRM? Last time I checked I can easily go to any other FW I want to. So it's not forced by any means. Do you actually even use your PS3? Let alone use CFW of any form? Because I highly doubt you do.

Within 5 minutes I can go from TB CFW to Kamew or OtherOS++. Which will allow me to get the additional "freedoms" of "open CFW." So how on earth is that forced drm? It's not.

The fact is TB was advertised and designed for one purpose and one purpose only, TO PLAY GAMES. So they removed every other function. So if you want those functions, fair enough, spend 5 minutes of your time and go to OtherOS++ or Kamew. Boom problem solved.

So again, your "points" are mute. Every point I've seen from you Anti-TB folks amounts to nothing. The scene isn't being destroyed by TB, the developers are doing that on their own. TB isn't forced DRM as you can easily go to a different firmware if you want Linux, etc.

Like I said, you anti-TB folks, especially you devs, should really PUT UP OR SHUT UP. Either start furthering the scene by contributing homebrew and other applications for it, or shut up. Seriously... this scene is dieing because most of you developers are spending all of your time *****ing about a dongle instead of contributing to the scene.

And again, it's hilarious how the ones in this scene who are actually furthering it like Dean, Rebug, and the Showtime developer, haven't said one word about TB. You know why? Because they are too busy contributing to the scene to give a **** about a dongle. Then you have ThatOtherDev who is too busy making games to stop and complain about TB as well.

Hilarious how much time you can free up if you stop *****ing about something that isn't a problem to begin with.