[LoboGuara]

Originally Posted by bigo93 I dont know about AMDs now, but used to be that they ran pretty hot as they were overclocked, meaning you couldnt overclock them much at home. This was quite a few years ago, saw a video showing an amd and an intel cpu running without their heatsink, the intel ran ok, the amd exploded in a couple of seconds. But you do know that a very decent system will cost you £2000 minimum! (here in the UK)

You probably are talking about the famous pentium 3 x athlon xp video on tomshardware. Things have changed a lot from that time . Currently both AMD and NVIDIA are cooler and stable, depends on the series. For example, my old 9800GTX reached 75 ° C (and died after 6 months), then I switched to a HD5770 which is still running at 35 º, with a better performance than 9800GTX.

[henry caine]

unless ur gonna be sequencing the human gnome u don't need that much computing power ur gonna end up having a super computer for which u have no use for i can't think of any software/application that specifically require an octocore and or 32 gb of ram do u really wanna buy a $4000 piece of equipement only to wait 5 years before any application is made capable of using u need a high end computer not a super computer most software a made for single and dual core what u need today is a 2.40 ghz quad core, 8 gb of ram, 2tb hdd + external space if needed, a bd/dvd/cd burner reader combo, and a sick graphic card fron nvidia or ati u can get all that and more for $2000 and all ur gaming and video editing needs will be satisfied for the next 5 years (maybe more) keep in mind hardware power is always far ahead of software requirements

[Mackdanny]

Unless a mobo can take a six core and an 8 core in the same slot would I consider it, but that's highly unlikely.

[ps3hacker12]

Originally Posted by bigo93 I'm talking about CPUs, but like I said this was years ago, not sure what they are like now. Here's one of the videos I watched years ago, maybe they should make a new one CPU without Cooler ★ INTEL vs AMD processor - YouTube £254??? :O What did you do, buy it off the back of a truck?! £254 could barely cover the cost of graphics card in a decent system! http://www.ebuyer.com/353900-asus-gt...rd-gtx680-2gb5 £462.30 just for the graphics card. Sorry but unless it was off the back of a truck you dont have a decent system. Perhaps you can give us your specs and where you got it from if you have a decent PC, as I and many other would be very interested! I mean the 2500k comes to £170, http://www.ebuyer.com/251596-intel-c...bx80623i52500k So now I am pretty curious as to what the rest of your system is :S My definition of an decent system is two of those graphics cards Obvious one of the new Ivy bridge processors A minimum 800W psu with a minimum gold rating A nice case with a hot-swappable sata drive connection on top (My friend just bought a coolermaster case with this, can be pretty useful) Proper gaming ram, 16GB min Raid 6 configuration with all SSD drives! *drools* Oh and a keyboard and mouse :P But all of that would cost a fortune!

Lol yh most of my parts were second hand. I think my system is in my signature. It's decent enough for me I don't really overclock and a GTS450 maxes out on most games at my resolution (1440x900), it not on max it runs on high.

800W really? And lol at 16GB ram.


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[ps3hacker12]

Originally Posted by Mackdanny Octo it is then, how's that AMD bulldozer?

Try googling. Also try anandtech for comparison of processors and graphics cards. It can help quite a lot in choosing your parts


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[SenorPickle]

Originally Posted by Mackdanny Octo it is then, how's that AMD bulldozer?

I've been rocking a Phenom II X4 for the past couple years and I still slay anything that gets thrown at it.

You aren't going to need more than 4 cores unless you are running a server, or maybe if you do heavy video editing. More cores != faster, completely dependent on whether the program can utilize it (and most don't, although thats starting to change). Intel is going to run cooler and not draw as much power, but more expensive. My AMD rig seconds as a heater in the winter, but I can live with that

Same goes with RAM, 32GB is super excessive. If you're looking for sheer performance, put that money into a SLI setup or a spend the extra for water cooling. You're going to see more gain out of a high end graphic setup rather than overloading the thing with RAM. NVidia vs AMD? Doesn't really matter, but go with an ASUS or EVGA model of whatever because they have the best warranties (EVGA = Lifetime warranty, tradeup program, can replace fan/heatsink and not void warranty etc.). The limiting factor on the cards nowadays in the video ram, so spend the extra and get something with 2GB, I didn't and I slightly regret it.

Some would say go with SSD. I'd say get some WD Caviar Blacks and you'll be set. SSD is a crapshoot, but if you're going to get one consider a small SSD for your boot, and then a larger one for practical storage.

And i'm also a fan of Gigabyte mobos. The 2nd (safe) bios is a big draw because I've had mobos die on flashing before (passed hash check, verified bla bla bla, but something screwy with the flash drive effed it up).

Oh, last bit of advice. Buy the parts locally if at all possible, that way if something is broken or not exactly what you need, you can return it without having to wait a week for shipping.

[Mackdanny]

Originally Posted by SenorPickle I've been rocking a Phenom II X4 for the past couple years and I still slay anything that gets thrown at it. You aren't going to need more than 4 cores unless you are running a server, or maybe if you do heavy video editing. More cores != faster, completely dependent on whether the program can utilize it (and most don't, although thats starting to change). Intel is going to run cooler and not draw as much power, but more expensive. My AMD rig seconds as a heater in the winter, but I can live with that Same goes with RAM, 32GB is super excessive. If you're looking for sheer performance, put that money into a SLI setup or a spend the extra for water cooling. You're going to see more gain out of a high end graphic setup rather than overloading the thing with RAM. NVidia vs AMD? Doesn't really matter, but go with an ASUS or EVGA model of whatever because they have the best warranties (EVGA = Lifetime warranty, tradeup program, can replace fan/heatsink and not void warranty etc.). The limiting factor on the cards nowadays in the video ram, so spend the extra and get something with 2GB, I didn't and I slightly regret it. Some would say go with SSD. I'd say get some WD Caviar Blacks and you'll be set. SSD is a crapshoot, but if you're going to get one consider a small SSD for your boot, and then a larger one for practical storage. And i'm also a fan of Gigabyte mobos. The 2nd (safe) bios is a big draw because I've had mobos die on flashing before (passed hash check, verified bla bla bla, but something screwy with the flash drive effed it up). Oh, last bit of advice. Buy the parts locally if at all possible, that way if something is broken or not exactly what you need, you can return it without having to wait a week for shipping.

Yes, this is going to be my beast, I'm going to do everything on it, and more. And when I say that, I mean it

[TizzyT]

Originally Posted by SenorPickle I've been rocking a Phenom II X4 for the past couple years and I still slay anything that gets thrown at it. You aren't going to need more than 4 cores unless you are running a server, or maybe if you do heavy video editing. More cores != faster, completely dependent on whether the program can utilize it (and most don't, although thats starting to change). Intel is going to run cooler and not draw as much power, but more expensive. My AMD rig seconds as a heater in the winter, but I can live with that Same goes with RAM, 32GB is super excessive. If you're looking for sheer performance, put that money into a SLI setup or a spend the extra for water cooling. You're going to see more gain out of a high end graphic setup rather than overloading the thing with RAM. NVidia vs AMD? Doesn't really matter, but go with an ASUS or EVGA model of whatever because they have the best warranties (EVGA = Lifetime warranty, tradeup program, can replace fan/heatsink and not void warranty etc.). The limiting factor on the cards nowadays in the video ram, so spend the extra and get something with 2GB, I didn't and I slightly regret it. Some would say go with SSD. I'd say get some WD Caviar Blacks and you'll be set. SSD is a crapshoot, but if you're going to get one consider a small SSD for your boot, and then a larger one for practical storage. And i'm also a fan of Gigabyte mobos. The 2nd (safe) bios is a big draw because I've had mobos die on flashing before (passed hash check, verified bla bla bla, but something screwy with the flash drive effed it up). Oh, last bit of advice. Buy the parts locally if at all possible, that way if something is broken or not exactly what you need, you can return it without having to wait a week for shipping.

For performance and capacity wise I raided a couple HDDs together and my reads are almost as fast as a low end SSD almost 400MBps. So @Mackdanny that might also be a route you may look into to.

[ps3hacker12]

I just went for a hybrid SSD a momentous XT 750gb only £45 off eBay. (it was still sealed in its packaging :o)


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