[gDrive]

@svenmullet
I agree more/less wholeheartedly with what you have said here.

[Benzonia]

Originally Posted by svenmullet Let me know when all the BS is over. @zadow28 : apparently, you need to release working P.O.C., or the 1337 d3v5 will troll/slander you. I suspect that if oct0xor had just posted a bunch of ida databases from the ps3usercheat dongle, they'd have called it fake too. Food for thought. @1337 d3v5: You can't have it both ways... put up or shut up. If you don't want to be part of the scene by actually destroying this DRM bullsh1t, then leave us to our failures. "That's wrong, but I'm not going to tell you what's right" is not helpful, in fact, it's the opposite of helpful. And telling us to read the wiki is dumb; for one, the overwhelming majority of people who read the wiki (myself included) do not understand or know how to utilize the info in there. For two, if there was info in there that would lead to open solutions to the dongle problem, someone would have done it already. It is *not* the be all end all of PS3 knowledge, and it is useless for the average end user. I don't doubt that many "devs" in the "scene" know exactly how to accomplish what cobra/TB is doing, but they won't say because they are either in on it themselves, don't care about the scene, or are protecting sony and game devs from piracy. Guess what? Piracy already exists, in fact, the worst form of it exists (pay-for-piracy). You are not protecting sony/the game industry from anything, the only people you are protecting is TB. If you don't care about the scene, why do you suddenly care when someone posts dongle-cracking infos? Which brings us back to point 1: why are you protecting TB? Once again, either shut up completely and let us flounder, or drop the bombshell, kill off the dongles, and gain our infinite respect. Just don't pop up every time someone "releases" something and call it fake. That is what's known as "trolling". And if you don't know how to kill the dongles, well, how do you know if it's fake/useless or not? Do you see the predicament you're in? Your little coven/mutual admiration society means *nothing* to the average end-user unless you release working solutions, not trolololing "fake!" posts. I'm not telling anyone to release anything, I'm telling you that *unless you do so*, you are nothing to us. Past deeds only go so far, I don't think of Thomas Edison every time I flick a light switch.

The best post I've read on this site in a long, long time.

[luqi]

Originally Posted by svenmullet Let me know when all the BS is over. @zadow28 : apparently, you need to release working P.O.C., or the 1337 d3v5 will troll/slander you. I suspect that if oct0xor had just posted a bunch of ida databases from the ps3usercheat dongle, they'd have called it fake too. Food for thought. @1337 d3v5: You can't have it both ways... put up or shut up. If you don't want to be part of the scene by actually destroying this DRM bullsh1t, then leave us to our failures. "That's wrong, but I'm not going to tell you what's right" is not helpful, in fact, it's the opposite of helpful. And telling us to read the wiki is dumb; for one, the overwhelming majority of people who read the wiki (myself included) do not understand or know how to utilize the info in there. For two, if there was info in there that would lead to open solutions to the dongle problem, someone would have done it already. It is *not* the be all end all of PS3 knowledge, and it is useless for the average end user. I don't doubt that many "devs" in the "scene" know exactly how to accomplish what cobra/TB is doing, but they won't say because they are either in on it themselves, don't care about the scene, or are protecting sony and game devs from piracy. Guess what? Piracy already exists, in fact, the worst form of it exists (pay-for-piracy). You are not protecting sony/the game industry from anything, the only people you are protecting is TB. If you don't care about the scene, why do you suddenly care when someone posts dongle-cracking infos? Which brings us back to point 1: why are you protecting TB? Once again, either shut up completely and let us flounder, or drop the bombshell, kill off the dongles, and gain our infinite respect. Just don't pop up every time someone "releases" something and call it fake. That is what's known as "trolling". And if you don't know how to kill the dongles, well, how do you know if it's fake/useless or not? Do you see the predicament you're in? Your little coven/mutual admiration society means *nothing* to the average end-user unless you release working solutions, not trolololing "fake!" posts. I'm not telling anyone to release anything, I'm telling you that *unless you do so*, you are nothing to us. Past deeds only go so far, I don't think of Thomas Edison every time I flick a light switch.

Nice say , nothing more too say !!! The last big great Dev for me in this scene was graf chokolo, take a example from him.
Btw. I think its better to close this thread now or change the Titel please, at the moment truly leads to misleading.

[malex]

One day there will be a movie/book written based on all this drama... surely there will be.

[BGMaxie]

Can somebody be nice enough to please tell me what this thing does and how we benefit from it? Thanks.

[Benzonia]

Originally Posted by BGMaxie Can somebody be nice enough to please tell me what this thing does and how we benefit from it? Thanks.

I'm happy to defer to someone more knowledgeable, but as far as I know, this is not even a "thing" that "does" anything. It's a compilation of decrypted files. And as of right now, you cannot benefit from it.

Hope that answers your questions.

[euss]

/wake up

Originally Posted by Octopus In this case, why no1 called a fake graf's hv bible?

Very simple, because he also released (beside his decrypted binairies, keys etc. long before fail0verflow and complete valid IDA databases):

• proof of concept
• sourcecode / ports
• complete wikipages
• valid work on which others could work further with

Also, he explained into detail his findings online, even while under pressure and raids. Was willing to share it all, while not being an ignorant trolling prick and he respected fellow people wanting to learn.

Anyone even /hinting/ to graf_chokolo as someone not to be respected, should be hung by the balls (*) for scene ignorance/incompetence and lack of understanding of the greatness of his work (yes, I hold him highly in my regards, imo the scene hasn't seen a greater man).

(*) Perhaps a fitting punishement would be to write with pencil on paper all the work that graf_chokolo released on www.ps3devwiki.com


/ignore thread

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by TRoN_1 It's the lust for money that is the root of all evil, not having money or wanting to make a buck. And why is the title of this thread still "[Released] Zadow's Cobra Gift - Cobra USB dongle reversed" since he is labeled a fake?

I originally had the title as "Zadows Cobra Gift", someone else changed it...

[Benzonia]

Originally Posted by GregoryRasputin I originally had the title as "Zadows Cobra Gift", someone else changed it...

Lol, so.......why hasn't it been changed back?

[GregoryRasputin]

Originally Posted by Benzonia Lol, so.......why hasn't it been changed back?

Don't ask me, perhaps the guilty party whom changed it in the first place can do so.