[Pockets69]

Originally Posted by Annelies I am willing to bet that if Sony or Microsoft go digital distribution that only a small percentage of gamers will actually quit gaming on consoles. And like I said before, if you quit gaming on consoles, there are only two places left to go: PC (which is DD anyways) or you will be forced to game on unsupported hardware of the past. A console that focuses on digital distribution will have games on par with Steam when it comes to pricing since shipping & packaging costs will no longer be relevant. That's why games are so cheap on Steam. And what is Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo when EA goes 100% digital? Stop supporting games made by EA? And what is going to happen when other companies follow EA? http://www.afterdawn.com/news/articl...ercent_digital <--- That's money Gamestop would have stolen from EA via used game sales. It's all a matter of time. These game developers don't care about Gamestop and neither do I. Or maybe you could bring your consoles hard drive to a friends house that contains 20-30 games, sign into your PSN/XBL/Wii U account and play them there? That is, if Sony, MS or Nintendo allowed it.

No they won't, you do realize that, not everyone in the world has internet? not everyone in the world play online, but most everyone, can go out and buy a game for their machine, if they can't buy a game for their machine, they won't buy the machine. if they don't buy it, company's lose millions and will make one of two things, 1) will act stupid, pretend its not their fault, and not care about the customer 2) will see their act as stupid, will realize its not the same demographic will find out that their console is not a pc, and their service is not steam, and will eventually make a version that will support psychical media, in the end it will cost a lot of money, so why be stupid, and go digital only LOL, save money and don't start losing the console war at launch LOL

a console with didgital games WILL never have the games on par with steam, EVER! PC Games do not cost the same as consoles, they never did they never will, console games are way different when comes to creating them, a licensed developer for sony is not the same as developer for a PC (they don't even need to be licensed LOL) so prices will never EVER be the same.

and that digital download stuff has lower prices because of cutting in packaging and shipping is bull****, do you mean to tell me that a game sold at 35€ on steam and that the game on store costs 55@ and thats all packaging and shipping? LOL

if EA goes 100% digital it won't be sony or nintendo or microsoft that won't be supporting EA it would be the consumer LOL sony, nintendo and microsoft can actually sell it on their store... its up to the consumer to just not buy it, because they won't or because they can't.

about gamestop, i hate them as much as anyone else...

[BobbyBlunt]

Originally Posted by Annelies Or maybe you could bring your consoles hard drive to a friends house that contains 20-30 games, sign into your PSN/XBL/Wii U account and play them there? That is, if Sony, MS or Nintendo allowed it.

What if your friend has no internet to log into the correct account.....another reason the idea will fail

[hellsing9]

The same happened with DRM measures on games like = Alone in the dark, AS brotherhood.
Was IMPERATIVE to the one who bought the game to have INTERNET.
And if it happens (that time) that you don't have an ISP, you have to go to a friends house where the MAC among another things get's catched to do the proper identification of the game.
The pathetic scenario was, that you have to go anytime you wanted to play to your friends house because even offline activation failed at failing.

[Annelies]

Originally Posted by Pockets69 and that digital download stuff has lower prices because of cutting in packaging and shipping is bull****, do you mean to tell me that a game sold at 35€ on steam and that the game on store costs 55@ and thats all packaging and shipping? LOL

That's exactly what I'm saying.

It costs nothing for Valve (or Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo) to distribute content digitally.

Originally Posted by Pockets69 No they won't, you do realize that, not everyone in the world has internet?

Yes I realize this, but in the regions where their consoles sell the most at, the majority of the population has an active internet connection. In the United States, 74% of the population uses the internet on a daily basis and that statistic was in 2010. The number is only rising.

Europe and Japan are not far behind.

Originally Posted by Pockets69 if EA goes 100% digital it won't be sony or nintendo or microsoft that won't be supporting EA it would be the consumer LOL sony, nintendo and microsoft can actually sell it on their store... its up to the consumer to just not buy it, because they won't or because they can't.

Why would it be the consumer, if EA has already proven that they've made billions selling content digitally already? That number is only going to rise in the future...

Originally Posted by BobbyBlunt What if your friend has no internet to log into the correct account.....another reason the idea will fail

You are right, then. If your friend did not have internet it would fail. Then maybe your friend should come to your house? That would be something you guys would have to work out, lol.

[Ubefuct]

Is there not a product like this out already called on live?

[Pockets69]

That's exactly what I'm saying. It costs nothing for Valve (or Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo) to distribute content digitally.

LOL and what does that have to do with what i said? what i said is why does a games cost 35 on steam and 55 on a store, its not really due to shipping and packaging costs
explain me then why the difference? games on store could cost a lot less, the packaging and shipping is bull****.

Why would it be the consumer, if EA has already proven that they've made billions selling content digitally already? That number is only going to rise in the future...

then compare the millions they make with didgital distribution, with the ones they make with physical copys lol.

[Cheesethief]

The PSP Go proved this to be false. It failed in all of the markets and was retired from them all except the U.S.

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[Rautz]

Yeah, wont happen next gen. Too many obstacles.


HDD Space- Games are getting bigger and maybe they will be even bigger next gen. I have a large game library and Im sure many, many other people do too. Larger harddrives would drive up production costs... Do console makers want to drive up the launch price tag to drive away customers? Obviously not.

ADVERTISING- Game stores make money off of used games. Why would they bother putting these consoles up in windows and near the front door to entice you to buy the hardware just for a one off sale with the customer never to return unless for a controller or another peripheral? I never saw the PSPGo advertised like I did the PSP, Vita, 3DS... you get the point.

Connection Speeds- Many, many countries have capped data and crap speeds compared to the fortunate places that have a better setup structure. Lower speeds, capped data would obviously lead to less sales since alot of people consider gaming a LUXURY not a NECESSITY. I shudder at imagining God of War 3 as DD only.

Collectors- Probably not a big chunk of the money card here but if you check around the web there are many game collectors that buy the different versions(Limited Editions, Remakes, Standard etc) of a game since they are diehard fans of the franchise. Not sure if DD count as collectors items since no boxart, bonus items are involved. Loss of revenue nonetheless.

Price and time convenience- My SEN region store charges $120 or there abouts for Battlefield 3 during its release(I think price is still the same now), or during release I could drive 7 minutes down the road and purchase the Hard Copy for the same price(its even cheaper now). Get home, read a manual that has been reduced to the cover and 3 pages, start the game up, download the patch, watch the intro and start playing with other friends who have the game. Probably in that time my DD copy would be around 2% downloaded with a few hours to wait before the download completes AND then wait for it to install. I'm sure many others fall into this category too.


DD works well with steam because there isnt a large "cut" made for hardware costs since we use a PC, game consoles are made to profit off of games so we, as consumers, wouldnt see a price dive on a DD only market anyways. As others have said it would just be a suicide move, and it would only really profit digital games outfits like Kwalee; Ah... I see what David Darling did there LOL

[daryl1987]

I Pretty much agree with what majority are saying on here. This wont happen and if it did on the next-gen (too early in my opinion) it would fail within the first 2 years without a doubt.

I live in the UK and most of the people i know are still using DSL connections for their ISP and live over a mile or so from their exchanges so their speeds are laughable, under 1MB's down and under 60kb's up. The fact is that not everyone can get Fibre optic's BB and with games getting bigger and bigger it would be impossible for those users to even get the games let alone for anyone to have a full library of the games they want to buy on a single Console due to HDD limitations. It's not like they would be able to stream entire games over wan due to the isp limits again.

They have to think of the future in consoles too, ie. look at the Snes. you bought a game and played it on any snes machine. its many years later and you can dig it out of the Attic and it will stiill work. Now take my Ps3 and xbox 360 i've bought around 30 games via PSN and Live to find that when my ISP is down and fancy a bit of gaming, that i am limited to the physical Disks since my online bought version will not boot unless connected to their servers!

So what happens when microsoft and sony cease to support the ps3 and xbox 360, will my online bought games be a waste of money since they are only playable when connected to their servers, which would not exist in the future? So in 10 years time when they no longer support these consoles i wont be able to play the games i have bought in the last 5 years. This will lead to even more piracy i believe.

And whatever happened to being able to take your games round to your freinds to play them? all this online code, verification, drm garbage is ruining it for them. no second hand games anymore wtf!

So thats my take on the games console scene anyway, I will not bother with any new consoles due to the way it's going.

[Annelies]

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